2290 repeat issue

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marc0810

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Hey guys was building a simple preset using the 2290 in the delay block. I know one of the oddities of this unit was the phase reverse. On default settings it’s set to phase reverse right, however I get no repeats on this setting. I am not at my computer right now but my signal was amp-cab-delay-reverb-out1. The reverb input was set to left and right..but even with it out of the chain I am not getting repeats unless I set phase reverse to none or both.
 
marc0810 said:
Hey guys was building a simple preset using the 2290 in the delay block. I know one of the oddities of this unit was the phase reverse. On default settings it’s set to phase reverse right, however I get no repeats on this setting. I am not at my computer right now but my signal was amp-cab-delay-reverb-out1. The reverb input was set to left and right..but even with it out of the chain I am not getting repeats unless I set phase reverse to none or both.
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That can only mean that something is collapsing the signal to mono, it could be output settings or some other device you're connected to
 
Dave Merrill said:
@marc0810 Did you try searching the forum before posting?
This is a very common question!
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I did, first way I searched didn’t turn up anything but I found some other stuff. @DLC86 No blocks afterwards collapsing it to mono. Might check some external monitoring when I get home. Someone may have changed something on my mixer by mistake.
 
marc0810 said:
Hey guys was building a simple preset using the 2290 in the delay block. I know one of the oddities of this unit was the phase reverse. On default settings it’s set to phase reverse right, however I get no repeats on this setting. I am not at my computer right now but my signal was amp-cab-delay-reverb-out1. The reverb input was set to left and right..but even with it out of the chain I am not getting repeats unless I set phase reverse to none or both.
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Congratulations, you're now an official Fractal user- it's not a bug, that's how the 2290 works because the L and R of the delay are opposite phase, just like the real unit. Like @DLC86 said, you're collapsing to mono somewhere. Check your Global Output settings to make sure you're not set on Sum L+R. If you're monitoring in mono, that would do it too- to use the 2290 in mono, you have to set the phase reverse to none, or both, like you mentioned.

Consider this a rite of passage!
 
If you enter the OPs' thread title into the search box, you get two or three results of threads asking the same question.
 
Chris Hurley said:
How do you suggest you search for this? What terms would you use?
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Heh, well you're right, it's trickier to find than one might hope, if you don't already know it's a phase cancellation issue so you don't use those words.

I apologize for my kind of impatient sounding response. Not your fault, but it actually IS a common question, as you've seen from the "rite of passage" replies.

That said, this Fred Flintstone search did actually find relevant hits though:
2290 "no delay"
 
Dave Merrill said:
Heh, well you're right, it's trickier to find than one might hope, if you don't already know it's a phase cancellation issue so you don't use those words.

I apologize for my kind of impatient sounding response. Not your fault, but it actually IS a common question, as you've seen from the "rite of passage" replies.

That said, this Fred Flintstone search did actually find relevant hits though:
2290 "no delay"
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It’s all good no offense taken! Like I said I am going to check external stuff…because I know on the fractal all my routing is set right, (output set to stereo, no mono blocks afterwards etc)
 
Adman103 said:
Congratulations, you're now an official Fractal user- it's not a bug, that's how the 2290 works because the L and R of the delay are opposite phase, just like the real unit. Like @DLC86 said, you're collapsing to mono somewhere. Check your Global Output settings to make sure you're not set on Sum L+R. If you're monitoring in mono, that would do it too- to use the 2290 in mono, you have to set the phase reverse to none, or both, like you mentioned.

Consider this a rite of passage!
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Yeah I know like I said internal everything looks to be correct. (No mono blocks, output set to stereo etc) so I am going to check external, nothing should have changed but someone could have messed with mixer settings accidentally.
 
marc0810 said:
It’s all good no offense taken! Like I said I am going to check external stuff…because I know on the fractal all my routing is set right, (output set to stereo, no mono blocks afterwards etc)
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Maybe first verify that ping-pong delays actually ping and pong, or panning stuff pans, through the whole chain including the mixer, speakers, everything, before you look for the mono-collapse causes you have top of mind.
 
marc0810 said:
Yeah I know like I said internal everything looks to be correct. (No mono blocks, output set to stereo etc) so I am going to check external, nothing should have changed but someone could have messed with mixer settings accidentally.
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Is the Cab block before or after the Delay block? Try disabling the Cab block and seeing if the delay is still collapsed to mono.
 
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