Why cant I get clean punchy Low end on any Fender style amp

[dean701]

I think it's the IR. Try choptones IRs for a fuller bottom end. Most of it will get lopped off if you do a low cut for mixing though which is closer to Bogren, ML, OWN and York out of the box.

 

[Cam Heiliger]

The York Audio Deluxe Oxford 1x12 IRs have fantastic low end punch for the Fender amps. Especially the ribbon mics. I'm partial to the 160 myself.

 

[Joshua_L]

In general clean tones come to life with volume.

Dialing a clean tone with a modeler needs volume especially for cleans.

My favorite amp is the 69 Bassguy bass. It sounds huge.

 

[Cainer]

The York Audio Deluxe Oxford 1x12 IRs have fantastic low end punch for the Fender amps. Especially the ribbon mics. I'm partial to the 160 myself.

That looks interesting - have you happened to have had a chance to try the Twin IR of theirs based off a JBL D120F-loaded cab? https://www.yorkaudio.co/product-page/ftwn-212-d120

 

[LeonC]

May have already been said...but in my experience, most real Fender amps don't have what I consider to be punchy low end. Many have big, wide lows...but not really punchy or shelved. Let's consider the amps that Fractal models:

Tweed Champ - Nope
Tweed Twin - plenty of low end...but punchy? Not really, IMO
Super Reverb - can get punchier than many Fenders
Tweed Bassman - nope, not punchy
BF Bassman - not really, but maybe, through right cab
BF Bandmaster - possibly, maybe through right cab
Deluxe Reverb - nope
Twin Reverb - lots of lows...not all that punchy, more like stiff
Tweed Princeton - nope
Princeton Reverb - nope
Tremolux - has potential...depends on speakers/cab probably
Vibrolux - " " "
Vibroverb (BF) - not really

I've got little/no real world exp. with these:
Blues Junior - don't know
Vibroking - don't know
Custom Vibrolux - don't know

IME, most Fenders have big, wide low end. Often come across as flabby (typically because either OT or speakers can't handle the low end being put out by the amp.

If you really want punchy low end, you need an amp design where they've shelved some of the bass. And you'll do best with a closed back speaker cab.

My 2 cents for what it's worth. If you want punchy low end, Fender is not really where I'd go looking for it.

 

[unix-guy]

I use a custom blended IR with a G12H30 and G12M25 from the York Audio MTCH pack.

I use it with everything.

No problem getting full and punchy bass with 59 Bassman Bright.

 

[skolacki]

Lo cut on the amp block input helps.

 

[unix-guy]

Also, try setting Input Trim to .500 to emulate the "normal" input on Fender amps.

 

[Cam Heiliger]

That looks interesting - have you happened to have had a chance to try the Twin IR of theirs based off a JBL D120F-loaded cab? https://www.yorkaudio.co/product-page/ftwn-212-d120

I have not. I just know the Oxford sounds awesome. That said, you can’t really go wrong with York Audio IRs. Justin does great work.

 

[FractalAudio]

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