@Admin M@ for this Rush tone that we are discussing here do you think that getting an FM3 vs an AXE-FX3 will prevent me on playing with what you guys are commin up with?
Funny that Alex says live his settings are 480/680
Redid the tone matching with no cabs. Now to both the Left and Right channels of the iso track: Plexi for left and a Hi Watt for right. The Plexi/L is more distorted while the HiWatt is a little cleaner.
Tweaked the solo delays (more subtle) w/ A/D flanger and with a PEQ that gives a more liquid tone.
This sounds killer to me right now (with my guitar - still sloppy):
Two IRs for L/R go into the CAB blocks. U1.0015 into the upper CAB and U1.0017 into the lower CAB.
Added a Filter at the beginning to control level hitting the chain.
Scene 8 with just the HiWatt could be used for the cleaner strat sound near the end of the chorus, esp with FIL ch A (-3dB) or B (-6dB) on.
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Take from that what you will. I stand firmly by my numbers and posted the evidence to back them up.
Has anyone else noticed that the Moving Pictures version of Limelight is not tuned exactly to A440?
Yeah, that's been tweaking me too, just because you can't play along.
Not to the tune of 20ms (=9.6%) = 455 HzIs it possible that the tract is speed up, which goes back to why it's slightly not in tune?
This thread just made me 100% sure that I will upgrade from the AX8!
What I'm really asking is if you expect that the features not present in the FM3 are needed (dual amp playing at the same time, TM, etc?
This tone sounds killer for Limelight! I don't think it's spot on because I think it sounds better!!!
And here's my little gift of sonic archaeology for the day. This small loop tells you everything you need to know about the delay times and feedback structure for the solo in Limelight. Using steep filters, I isolated a little chirp in a narrow band around 500 Hz (listen for a sound like a seal's bark in the Soundcloud short audio loop below). Laying this clip alongside the time ruler in Logic, we see that the first echo on the left is at ~580 ms, followed by an echo on the right at 1000 ms. The left echo feeds itself and the right echo. It's not a normal ping pong in other words because the first ping is missing (pong, ping-pong, ping-pong, etc.). From what I remember, there was a ping-pong delay in some (Roland?) echo units, where, unlike the Axe-Fx, the "right/left time ratio" could be set higher than 100%. Never fear: we have the dual delay, which is even better! Settings follow, below.
Here's the audio:
And here's a visual showing the dry (green) left echoes (orange) and right echoes (red)
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Finally, here are the delay block settings to reproduce this sound. You can clearly hear reverb as well, but I haven't gotten there.
View attachment 64469
And here's my little gift of sonic archaeology for the day. This small loop tells you everything you need to know about the delay times and feedback structure for the solo in Limelight. Using steep filters, I isolated a little chirp in a narrow band around 500 Hz (listen for a sound like a seal's bark in the Soundcloud short audio loop below). Laying this clip alongside the time ruler in Logic, we see that the first echo on the left is at ~580 ms, followed by an echo on the right at 1000 ms. The left echo feeds itself and the right echo. It's not a normal ping pong in other words because the first ping is missing (pong, ping-pong, ping-pong, etc.). From what I remember, there was a ping-pong delay in some (Roland?) echo units, where, unlike the Axe-Fx, the "right/left time ratio" could be set higher than 100%. Never fear: we have the dual delay, which is even better! Settings follow, below.
Here's the audio:
And here's a visual showing the dry (green) left echoes (orange) and right echoes (red)
View attachment 64468
Finally, here are the delay block settings to reproduce this sound. You can clearly hear reverb as well, but I haven't gotten there.
View attachment 64469
And here's my little gift of sonic archaeology for the day. This small loop tells you everything you need to know about the delay times and feedback structure for the solo in Limelight. Using steep filters, I isolated a little chirp in a narrow band around 500 Hz (listen for a sound like a seal's bark in the Soundcloud short audio loop below). Laying this clip alongside the time ruler in Logic, we see that the first echo on the left is at ~580 ms, followed by an echo on the right at 1000 ms. The left echo feeds itself and the right echo. It's not a normal ping pong in other words because the first ping is missing (pong, ping-pong, ping-pong, etc.). From what I remember, there was a ping-pong delay in some (Roland?) echo units, where, unlike the Axe-Fx, the "right/left time ratio" could be set higher than 100%. Never fear: we have the dual delay, which is even better! Settings follow, below.
Here's the audio:
And here's a visual showing the dry (green) left echoes (orange) and right echoes (red)
View attachment 64468
Finally, here are the delay block settings to reproduce this sound. You can clearly hear reverb as well, but I haven't gotten there.
View attachment 64469
This will be the first thing I'll play when I get the FM3!My preset uses two amps in every scene, so it is firmly in Axe-Fx III territory. That said, I'll do an FM3 version just for you if you need one.
Maybe this is asking too much but... is there a way to ask Alex if he used multiple amps for this tone? Maybe since the 4140 amp is not modelled in the missing link for this tone (together with the red Mackenzie speakers IR???) for just use a 1 amp setup in a preset.My preset uses two amps in every scene, so it is firmly in Axe-Fx III territory. That said, I'll do an FM3 version just for you if you need one.