Saving Scene Changes

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Chuck100

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I could use some advice on saving changes in Scenes.

In a preset I've made various changes to settings in Scene 1. I want to use those changes as Scene 2 in the same preset, without overwriting the original settings of Scene 1. How do I save changes made in one Scene to another Scene in the same preset?

Thanks for your help.
 
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Maybe right-click on the scene number buttons in Axe edit? These have a menu with copy, paste and swap scene options.
 
Hi martijne, thanks for the advice. Copying one Scene to another worked with the right mouse click. To leave the original Scene unchanged though, I'll first have to copy it to a second Scene and then make the changes there.

One problem with this method is that sometimes you start making changes to settings spontaneously and realize only then that you want to save them. Sure you can copy and paste these changes to a new Scene number, but the changes you've made to the original Scene remain. It doesn't look like there is a true "save as" function that leaves the settings of the original Scene unchanged.
 
Chuck100 said:
Hi Chris, changes to the amp block (input drive, tone settings, bright switch). Is there something like a "save as" function, to save scene changes to a new scene number?
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The Amp block will always have the same settings share across the scenes of the preset. If you need different settings across the scenes, use the X/Y of the amp block : Scene 1 on X settings then Scene 2 on Y settings by example...
 
Thanks, AlGrenadine and paranoid. OK, got that with X/Y. I checked out "Burg's Triptiks", which I downloaded a while ago. X/Y is how he switches between two different amp types, for example.
 
Chuck100 said:
I could use some advice on saving changes in Scenes.
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As others eluded to, Scene controllers can be used for enabling/disabling blocks in your signal chain, not necessarily changing parameters [unless X/Y states are defined/configured]. Here's how I use it:

Signal - VOL > DRIVE > AMP > CAB > REV > DEL > MULTIDLY > FILTER
[if they aren't mentioned, they're disabled and 'X' state]
Scene 1: VOL > AMP > CAB
Scene 2: VOL > AMP > CAB > REV
Scene 3: VOL > AMP > CAB > REV > DEL
Scene 4: VOL > > AMP > CAB > REV > DEL > MULTIDLY
Scene 5: VOL > DRIVE > AMP > CAB > REV > DEL > MULTIDLY

I program 5 scenes so the default MFC-101 settings for "Reveal mode" have Scene 1 defaulted, then I can switch up to 5 setting changes on the fly depending on the portion of the song I am playing. Hope that helps!
 
ibanezfreak4 said:
As others eluded to, Scene controllers can be used for enabling/disabling blocks in your signal chain, not necessarily changing parameters [unless X/Y states are defined/configured]. Here's how I use it:

Signal - VOL > DRIVE > AMP > CAB > REV > DEL > MULTIDLY > FILTER
[if they aren't mentioned, they're disabled and 'X' state]
Scene 1: VOL > AMP > CAB
Scene 2: VOL > AMP > CAB > REV
Scene 3: VOL > AMP > CAB > REV > DEL
Scene 4: VOL > > AMP > CAB > REV > DEL > MULTIDLY
Scene 5: VOL > DRIVE > AMP > CAB > REV > DEL > MULTIDLY

I program 5 scenes so the default MFC-101 settings for "Reveal mode" have Scene 1 defaulted, then I can switch up to 5 setting changes on the fly depending on the portion of the song I am playing. Hope that helps!
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I think you're confusing "scene controllers" with "scenes" in this explanation. Switching on/off blocks and/or changing a block's X/Y state is exactly what you'd use scenes for. If you want to change modify-able parameters within a block's X-state for different scenes, you could use a scene controller.
 
Chuck100 said:
Hi Chris, changes to the amp block (input drive, tone settings, bright switch). Is there something like a "save as" function, to save scene changes to a new scene number?
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Perhaps you understand by now, but Scenes do not change settings within blocks. Primarily, Scenes ONLY engage/bypass blocks and change X/Y settings (and a few other small things).

So if you change the input trim in scene 1, it will be changed in all scenes, since that is a setting within a block.

I have a 1 hour premium tutorial available that details how to use Scenes (and presets and XY) in detail if you are interested. Might clear up a lot.
 
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