your sound man obviously hasn't dealt with something like the Axe before.At this point, no. I'm realizing that I don't have the patience for this. I guess I was hoping that the evolution of modeling would have moved to a place where I could just plug in and go. Don't get me wrong, as I've said in another thread, this Fractal stuff is amazing...the detail is unbelievable. And I think that is where I don't have the discipline to get to a place and leave it alone. I fear I'll never enjoy playing guitar...because I'm always tweaking software. It doesn't help that our sound man pulled me aside without prompt last weekend and said "Do you know that you're maybe one of 3 guitarists in town that I'll never tell to turn down? Your rig always sounds great and fits in the mix. A lot of great players don't have that." At that moment I mentioned that I was experimenting with modeling...his response was "please don't." Truth told, I've been using this rig for several years now and between cab choice and power scaling, it can be pretty dang quiet on stage and still sound great...so I dunno. I guess I've got some thinking to do. It's not like I'm abandoning FAS...I really dig my FX8!
brothers, I feel better now. Thanks for this.
From all your comments I take it that there is enough educated opinion to go further down the modeler route and get rid of some of my tube amps.
My amps - all combos - include A Portcity12, a Swart AST, an old ampeg jet 12, a Redplate 40 Watt and a small Redplate 12 Watt. I will sell them except my Redplates. From time to time I may feel the urge to have a guitar - a cable - an amp, ant thats it. We will see. I do not have enough space and money to hold on to things I do not use. Also, some days ago one of my really well built Redplates did not react after a short loud crackle - fuse gone, power tube gone. I hope the AX8 is really reliable. So, one or two tube amps + the AX8 and a FRFR monitor in the future.
Then I sat down with the AX8 and my acoustic amp (ACUS, Shertler type, way more flat EQ than an AER and less boxy I would say) and gave it another session - the first was only like one hour, but this time I had a whole day with them. I started with the factory presets, Amp and Cab switched on in the global menu, only used the knobs on the front panel and sometimes a GEQ block in front of the amp, plus the VU level adjustment in GLOBAL. I went through the presets and realised in no time which ones could be tweaked to my desire by fiddling with drive, level, mids and treble. When I found it worth investing more time I fiddled a little more and saved it - at the end I had saved clean, slightly crunchy and low OD presets - 10 each. I will rule out half of them tonight, then choose matching triples or fourths - clean/gritty/crunch/lead. I would like to end up with maybe three amp types with four (clean to OD) settings each, so I can choose between, say, a fendery set or a boutique/Carol Ann set or a Friedman like set. Three main flavours so to speak, and choose only one for a gig to make things easier for the soundman.
While tweaking I found some pretty nice results with my ACUS acoustic amp (6" broadband speaker) that sounded way bettter than on my first try. They were not yet quite up to par with my best tube amps (Yep, got it, FRFR is something different also). But as someone said here I should not judge the AX8 with not so ideal monitors. I expect another big jump from my ACUS to the Matrix FR10 which I hope will arrive in March or April. All this and your helpful comments convinced me I am on the right track with FRFR monitors vs. tube amp.
I realised also, making presets and finding your tone sets with the AX8 is a lot of work, kind of adventurous, discipline is needed not to get lost, a method also to keep your eyes on the goal you want to achieve. Way more than with my former classic stompers approach. But as it stands now I am pretty excited about the options of amp flavours I have at my hands now, something which covers my needs for electric and acoustic guitars - and less maintenance work for my tube combos (tube exchange, biasing, tube rattling, anyone?).
Sorry for this long winding post. I could have kept it shorter by saying that my wife came in the room where I did the tweaking. She said: Damn, that sounds really good! - Who am I to disagree?
The cab block makes a huge difference. I have a few cabs, I know I like, and I test most amps with these.
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Thanks! I try to follow this advice. I realised again I am an old Fender guy (my first was a Super twin in the mid 70s), liked also the boutique stuff and the Friedmanns. Marshal is not for me I am afraid. Since playing withthe AX8 I am asking myself if I could have been a Vox guy too. Back those days an AC30 was moneywise out of the question...If you just stick to the amps similar to what you are already coming from, you will stop yourself from being overwhelmed with all the amps on offer. I usually go in there and pick an amp I already own or have owned and start tweaking from there. Same with cabs. I always start with a blank canvas too.
Yes, you need to amplify the AX8 and AxeFX right to fully get the best out of it. That would be the same for a valve head though. You would not be impressed with an old vintage Marshall played through a PA speaker rather than the 4x12 it was voiced for.
This AX8 a great little tool. Just chip away and add one thing at a time and you will be very happy.
Good luck
flavor of the month? more like the flavor of since they came out....There are a multitude of different ir's and eq options available to make any monitor sound good IMHO. You must realize that your sound ends up pumped through the pa, and this can be anything. Sound guy is going to do his thing regardless to make your sound fit. I have great success with my K12 some hate them, must be CLR (insert flavor of the month) or nothing blah blah. Use your ears, if it's too much high end, cut it out ( I use the cab block to do my low and high cuts). Sometimes I do low cuts in the amp block to get rid of flub. IMHO YMMV.
Until the next "I can't live without it" thing comes out.flavor of the month? more like the flavor of since they came out....
Until the next "I can't live without it" thing comes out.
Good to know. I can sell you mineMy tube amps literally collect dust right now
Exactly true, can name 10 off the top of my head.
Please name ten speakers that have dethroned the CLR since it came out.....I'll wait