Why can't I get the Stephen Carpenter presets

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mattman1985

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Hey, I recently found a thread talking about Stephen Carpenter's presets for the Axe-FX 3 MKII and when I tried importing them onto my Axe FX 3 Turbo it said that something wasn't compatible anymore, what happened? Why can't I import them? what changed between 2013 and now? I'm a huge deftones fan so I'm bumming that I can't use these presets, is there any way I can convert them over to whatever the turbo needs?

Thanks in advance for all the help!
 
Those presets were made for the Axe-Fx II, not the Axe-Fx III. I don't recall any being reworked for the Axe III.
 
unix-guy said:
The Axe Fx III was not released in 2013.

I'm pretty sure they're Axe Fx II presets...
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So yeah, I misread it, It's an Axe FX II thing (gotta love being dyslexic). But still, Is there anything I can do to convert these patches over to the Axe FX III? I've tried downloading the fractool stuff and my MacBook Pro does not like the download file what so ever, it refuses to open it so I'm at a loss if what to do. Does anyone have any suggestions?
 
I would start with the JMPre-1 in the amp block, its what Stephen used on the early albums.
 
mattman1985 said:
So yeah, I misread it, It's an Axe FX II thing (gotta love being dyslexic). But still, Is there anything I can do to convert these patches over to the Axe FX III? I've tried downloading the fractool stuff and my MacBook Pro does not like the download file what so ever, it refuses to open it so I'm at a loss if what to do. Does anyone have any suggestions?
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Even if you convert with FracTool it's not likely to sound as expected.

From 2013 until it's end of life, the Axe Fx II changed dramatically. The Axe Fx III has continued to change over the last 6 years.
 
unix-guy said:
Even if you convert with FracTool it's not likely to sound as expected.

From 2013 until it's end of life, the Axe Fx II changed dramatically. The Axe Fx III has continued to change over the last 6 years.
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Damn it, there were a couple things I had heard about stef's rig that I was hoping to incorporate, I also know he said he was using some stock patches out of the axe fx 2 and I was hoping I could yoink those and start using them myself. Is there a way I can download the axe fx 2's stock presets and use them on the axe fx 3 or is the same problem where the two units are just so similar it's not possible to do that? This may be a silly question but what if I temporarily bought an axe fx 2 just so I could copy and paste all the setting and things like that? would that work?
 
mattman1985 said:
Damn it, there were a couple things I had heard about stef's rig that I was hoping to incorporate, I also know he said he was using some stock patches out of the axe fx 2 and I was hoping I could yoink those and start using them myself. Is there a way I can download the axe fx 2's stock presets and use them on the axe fx 3 or is the same problem where the two units are just so similar it's not possible to do that? This may be a silly question but what if I temporarily bought an axe fx 2 just so I could copy and paste all the setting and things like that? would that work?
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You can use FracTool to do it... But the translated settings won't get the expected results.

You could get an Axe Fx II, load up the firmware from when those presets were created and load them up...

You can use converted presets on the Axe Fx III to get the "structure" / signal flow of the original presets but you'll need to tweak everything by ear (comparing to Axe Fx II).

Same deal for factory presets...
 
I tried getting Fractool to work but my computer won’t even open the file. My MacBook says something about not being able to verify the developer or something like that so whenever I try to open the file it just says no. Is there some sort of official download link I can use for Fractool or am I shit out of luck here?

Also my plan for the axe fx II thing would be to just sit there and manually program each patch to sound the same, or as close as I can get it. I’m a college kid on summer break with nothing but time so I don’t mind doing this, but it would be SO much easier if I could just use Fractool, LMAO.

Also, you mentioned something about the translated settings not giving me the expected results, why is that? Are the two units THAT different from each other? I know there’s probably close to a decade between them but still. Is this just something where it’s better to use my ear then to get the sounds I want?
 
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Also, you mentioned something about the translated settings not giving me the expected results, why is that? Are the two units THAT different from each other? I know there’s probably close to a decade between them but still. Is this just something where it’s better to use my ear then to get the sounds I want?
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Completely different modeling technology and hardware that will result in very different tonal results. Those presets were made with the Axe II firmware at the time, which is drastically different than Axe III firmware now.


If you want those presets, and that exact tone, buy a used Axe II and load the presets in.
 
I'm a huge Stephen Carpenter fan and I honestly don't think his recent tones are anything special. However, any of the JMP amp models should probably get you in the ballpark of his classic tone from White Pony and before. I'm wondering what specific tones you're wanting to duplicate, though?
 
That’s a bummer about the presets. It sounds like the issue is that Stephen Carpenter's presets were made for an older Axe-FX model, and things have changed a lot since then. The Axe-FX 3 Turbo is more advanced and has different hardware and firmware, which might be why the old presets aren’t compatible anymore.Fractal Audio updates their gear pretty often, and the presets from back then might not line up with the new stuff. The format and features have probably evolved, so older presets might need to be tweaked or converted to work with the newer hardware.There are plenty of resources online for Deftones tones that could help you get close to that sound.
I hope this can help
 
Horizon Drive + JMPre-1 + 1960 cab will get you in the ballpark of his earlier tones. I haven't really tried to dial in the later 8 string tones. The Brit JVM or Atomica may be better suited. They sound more modern and chuggy to me but the JMP will still do it also.

I just updated my Around the Fur preset on Axe-Change if you want to give it a rip.

The is the best rig rundown that I've found.

 
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