ElectricPhase
Fractal Fanatic
There is no best, but I'll throw a couple of guys out there that don't get mentioned enough: Michael Lee Firkins and Jeff Kollman
Damn! I only know a couple of these guys! I'd better get listening!
Ah see? Now that's it. Until he learned too much!! I wouldn't know Dave Davies style if he hit me over the head with it, even though I liked the Kinks and even saw them live in 1965! But how can you LEARN too much? Now I'll give you this: learning the guitar, scales, how to use modes and arpeggios and playing over changes is a PROCESS of learning. Most people get stuck in the process or don't get to the finish line, or you don't hear hem at the finish line, or further along in their process. If a person is playing and it sounds like scales either your hearing could use more expansion or the player hasn't learned them well enough If it sounds mechanical, then it is and he's playing mechanically because they haven't found a home in him yet. Maybe with Davies, his sheer, raw exuberance was done. He was every young then, where sheer, raw exuberance lives.
I can play very fast myself. But I don't really listen to a lot of those shredders. It's not my style. And after a while, who's pushing the boundaries any more in the shred style? It's all about the music. If it don't move you, it don't. But Shawn Lane was never really one of those shredders. He had so much more going for him.
Ah see? Now that's it. Until he learned too much!! I wouldn't know Dave Davies style if he hit me over the head with it, even though I liked the Kinks and even saw them live in 1965! But how can you LEARN too much? Now I'll give you this: learning the guitar, scales, how to use modes and arpeggios and playing over changes is a PROCESS of learning. Most people get stuck in the process or don't get to the finish line, or you don't hear hem at the finish line, or further along in their process. If a person is playing and it sounds like scales either your hearing could use more expansion or the player hasn't learned them well enough If it sounds mechanical, then it is and he's playing mechanically because they haven't found a home in him yet. Maybe with Davies, his sheer, raw exuberance was done. He was every young then, where sheer, raw exuberance lives.
I can play very fast myself. But I don't really listen to a lot of those shredders. It's not my style. And after a while, who's pushing the boundaries any more in the shred style? It's all about the music. If it don't move you, it don't. But Shawn Lane was never really one of those shredders. He had so much more going for him.
Yeah, but we're not talking ballet. I have never stopped learning and I've gotten better and better and better. You can find exceptions everywhere. What works best for me is personal experience. The body doesn't have to degenerate for a guitarist. Neither does the mind. Of course many uneducated artists have made great art. Of course. But the artists I like the most, are those that know the structure of music. I'm not talking about school by the way. I never mentioned school. I never graduated with a degree in music. I think colleges can kill creativity faster than anything. Wes, Holdsworth, Legrene didn't know how to read and in many cases did even know what to call chords. BUT THEY KNEW MUSIC.Well, I guess the ballerina's body didn't work for ya, huh? We'll just have todisagree, because, based on what I know of neuroplasticity,and berklee graduates, and Dave Davies, I guess we'll never see eye to eye. Some of the most 'ignorant' people in the world who know no rules or systems have made great art.
Via con dios.
I love Steve Morse.
Well then we agree a lot - though a lot of my music in somewhat 'unstructured' free-improv. But, yes, I agree with you. Fancy that!Yeah, but we're not talking ballet. I have never stopped learning and I've gotten better and better and better. You can find exceptions everywhere. What works best for me is personal experience. The body doesn't have to degenerate for a guitarist. Neither does the mind. Of course many uneducated artists have made great art. Of course. But the artists I like the most, are those that know the structure of music. I'm not talking about school by the way. I never mentioned school. I never graduated with a degree in music. I think colleges can kill creativity faster than anything. Wes, Holdsworth, Legrene didn't know how to read and in many cases did even know what to call chords. BUT THEY KNEW MUSIC.
I'm not talking studying the agreed upon Berklee classes or the like. I'm talking about studying music.
An AWFUL lot, if not most of my music is unstructured free improv -- not necessarily free jazz. But a lot of very structured. I'm almost all improv. I couldn't work a solo out if you put a gun to my head. And worse is playing someone else's solo note for note. I'll take the guillotine now please.Well then we agree a lot - though a lot of my music in somewhat 'unstructured' free-improv. But, yes, I agree with you. Fancy that!
An AWFUL lot, if not most of my music is unstructured free improv -- not necessarily free jazz. But a lot of very structured. I'm almost all improv. I couldn't work a solo out if you put a gun to my head. And worse is playing someone else's solo note for note. I'll take the guillotine now please.
BTW I had a feeling we agreed. That's why I kept at it. I had to just find the points of confusion.