Using the Ultra as an Effects Processor?

[ctyelvis]

I use my Ultra in my home studio. It's racked up and I use input 1 (on the front) to plug in my various instruments, then send them out of output 1 into my DAW.

What I'm trying to do is setup input and output 2 as an auxilary effects processor for grins and giggles in my DAW. Routing in the DAW is not the problem. I already have a Lexicon PCM-80 & 90 as well as an Eventide external boxes setup within the DAW and all's working fine. When I try to route the AFX the same way I can't seem to get any sound out of the Ultra.
I'm not trying to use the Ultra as a guitar processor (input/output 1) at the same time, I'm gonna use it as an effects processor. But if I use it as an insert effect, I could re-amp my pre-recorded, clean guitar.

What I'm doing...
in the I/O section:
Mode: I select Analog rear.
Audio: I have tried selecting stereo and left only
On the last setting in Audio, I have tried having "copy out1 to out2" off and on.

On the back of the Ultra, I use unbalanced and brand new, Mogami cables.
Still no luck.
Am I overlooking something?

Thanks in advance!
-Chris

 

[yek]

You must put the FXL block (effects loop) in the grid to get signal through Input2 and Output2.

 

[Bakerman]

You also need the feedback send and return blocks. What enters the Input 2 jacks is present at the right side of the FXL block; what enters the left side of the FXL block is present at Output 2 jacks.

--[RTN]-[FXL]-[effects chain]-[SND]---

Set RTN mix to 100%. If you connect SND to the right side of the layout you'll also hear the processed signal at Output 1. Connect or leave a blank space as desired.

 

[JJ Rodriguez]

You also need the feedback send and return blocks. What enters the Input 2 jacks is present at the right side of the FXL block; what enters the left side of the FXL block is present at Output 2 jacks.

--[RTN]-[FXL]-[effects chain]-[SND]---

Set RTN mix to 100%. If you connect SND to the right side of the layout you'll also hear the processed signal at Output 1. Connect or leave a blank space as desired.

I'm not sure I follow? I'm using the Axe as just an effects processor right now with the 4 cable method and I didn't have to do anything like that, then again, I'm not using it in stereo.

All that's missing from the wiring is the MIDI to the pre-amp.

How exactly are you wiring it to your interface? Are you using instrument cables in and out and back to your PC? Are you wiring it in stereo?

 

[ctyelvis]

I'm trying to use it as an external stereo effects unit in my DAW setup. I've tried using just one input or the stereo inputs (I/O #2).
I have not had a chance to go in and route stuff the way it's been recommended here.
I have to say, that would be a major pain in the ass to have to route EVERY patch, just to get it to come out of output #2.
Say I have output XLR 1 going to my DAW, the the 1/4" output 1 going to my DAW monitor set up (presonus Central station), then say I want output 2 to go to a stereo amp setup for jamming. I'd have to re-do every patch I have, just to send it out of output #2?

I have emailed Fractal, but don't get a response.
Maybe I'm using the wrong email address? (It's the ones on the main fractal web page, and also the one they use to confirm your order.)

 

[JJ Rodriguez]

That's funny. I've e-mailed them about tech support and getting a part to put on my Ultra and it got handled within 1 day of e-mail exchanges. You sure your e-mails aren't getting bounced?

What you're trying to do is a bit more complicated than I think I can figure out :lol:

 

[Bakerman]

I'm not sure I follow? I'm using the Axe as just an effects processor right now with the 4 cable method and I didn't have to do anything like that, then again, I'm not using it in stereo.

I'm pretty sure he wants to send a signal from DAW to Axe-FX Input 2 to apply some processing with the Axe-FX then have the result come out of Output 2 and go back to DAW. The send & return blocks are necessary to get the processed signal to the left of the FXL block so it can leave through Output 2. That's different than using In/Out 2 in the 4-cable method where you just place the FXL block and the signal goes Out 2 > external gear > In 2.