Thick neck shredders

Andy Eagle said:
Yes it does , this is why most artists that use them have it in a separate guitar and only use it for the songs that use it. Steve Vai has talked about it. I have taken them out of quite a few instruments. It’s the fact that the guitar sounds substantially better with the whole thing removed. It like a poor quality non true bypass pedal that you should have in a loop.
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It doesn't. I've owned mine for many years, I play it almost every day. Phil Collen seems to scrape by without any issues doesn't he?
It's a moot point anyway because if you buy a guitar with a sustainer, it's because you want to use a sustainer, so on a PC1 in particular, you would most likely play the guitar with the sustainer on all the time.

I think you're just trying to bash the guitar
 
I don't think it is necessarily how thick the neck is - My Knaggs Severn neck is much bigger than anything I have owned and took me a brief period to get used to it but it is really comfortable as it is quite rounded.

I used to have Charvel DK24 and that was thinner but much flatter so was less comfortable to me
My Musicman is thicker than my Suhr Modern but as it has a narrow profile so it suits me.

Not a fan of the AZ necks in the past - the couple I've played are quality instruments but given time I could prob get used to it.

Always liked the Schecter thin C neck.
 
For me an ability to shred has much more to do with the body-hands-neck positioning than with neck shape or thickness.
It's so much easier to shred on fat neck when that neck is very close to your own neck than on Ibanez which touches your knees like you have to hide your crotch behind the guitar body.
 
Ibanez AZ is a really interesting neck, it's like if you took a thinner neck and added some depth to it but didn't make it rounder. Medium depth but squarer shoulders so it feels bigger. It's also nice and wide with jumbo frets so very easy to play IMO.
 
Paulzx said:
It doesn't. I've owned mine for many years, I play it almost every day. Phil Collen seems to scrape by without any issues doesn't he?
It's a moot point anyway because if you buy a guitar with a sustainer, it's because you want to use a sustainer, so on a PC1 in particular, you would most likely play the guitar with the sustainer on all the time.

I think you're just trying to bash the guitar
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No you’re wrong go and read the thread linked.
 
Paulzx said:
It doesn't. I've owned mine for many years, I play it almost every day. Phil Collen seems to scrape by without any issues doesn't he?
It's a moot point anyway because if you buy a guitar with a sustainer, it's because you want to use a sustainer, so on a PC1 in particular, you would most likely play the guitar with the sustainer on all the time.

I think you're just trying to bash the guitar
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I like the PC1 but it definitely sounds better if you rip the sustainer out.
 
DC11GTR said:
I only have 3 guitars and they're all Ibanezeses, butnone have the thin/shreddy/wizard neck that a lot of shredders seem to use. Like the RG series and most of the Vai-series guitars I've tried. These are what I currently have, in order of when I got them.

JS-1000
JS-2450
AZ47P1QM (or some shit...)

I started on a JS1, so my hands were kind of born on that neck. The JS1000 feels the same. The JS2450 is a bit thicker and it's my main guitar. I didn't think I'd go for the AZ because I didn't know they made guitars with thicker necks but once I played on one, I was sold. I'd love to get a Pia and I still think that the original white w/gold Jem from the Sex and Religion era is the prettiest guitar I've ever seen, but I can't work with those necks. Same with the non-Majesty Petrucci EBMMs. I love so many of the options on them, but the neck is too thin.

It's what's kept me from getting a 7-string, though there are some options like the Martin Miller AZ, but that's too much for a guitar I wouldn't play nearly as much. I've only tried an 8-string once and I can't even have my thumb on the back of the neck with those lol
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Always thought the plural for Ibanez was “Ibeni”…
 
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Andy Eagle said:
I like the PC1 but it definitely sounds better if you rip the sustainer out.
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I'll take your word for it Andy, I'm not about to try it though. I doubt anyone buying a PC1 will either lol.
Saying it sounds better is probably a very subjective remark seeing that tone in general seems to be very subjective.

I strongly suspect John Zocco, who is on this forum, would strongly disagree though!
 
Paulzx said:
I'll take your word for it Andy, I'm not about to try it though. I doubt anyone buying a PC1 will either lol.
Saying it sounds better is probably a very subjective remark seeing that tone in general seems to be very subjective.

I strongly suspect John Zocco, who is on this forum, would strongly disagree though!
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Honestly it’s not subjective or even subtle. I get why people like them but I have worked on all the versions for many years in many guitars. Read the linked thread;
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Paulzx said:
I'll take your word for it Andy, I'm not about to try it though. I doubt anyone buying a PC1 will either lol.
Saying it sounds better is probably a very subjective remark seeing that tone in general seems to be very subjective.

I strongly suspect John Zocco, who is on this forum, would strongly disagree though!
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I did. The sustainer was a novelty to me and the neck pickup didn’t sound very good. Took it out and put a DiMarzio Injector in the neck position.
Currently, the guitar has a Super Distortion, Area 67, and Injector in it. My PC1 has been a workhorse and I modded it to suit my needs in a cover band.
 
It's more about the skills of the player than the neck of the guitar, of course this does not rule out that the thickness / thinness of the guitar neck at least partially affects the issue. But there are these skilled and fast guitarists who play with a thick neck, e.g. Gary Moore, Pat Metheny etc. I think there are more good examples of fat necks in the jazz genre (Pat Metheny, John McLaughlin ex.)



 
My Jackson PC1 is a 2009 model. The neck measures .83 at the first fret. The profile is a D shape with noticeable shoulder. The shoulders make the neck feel bigger than it is.
This is the guitar in its current state with vintage copper hardware, SS frets, Super Distortion, Area 67, and Injector pickups.Jackson PC1 Refinished.JPG
 
rcm78 said:
I did. The sustainer was a novelty to me and the neck pickup didn’t sound very good. Took it out and put a DiMarzio Injector in the neck position.
Currently, the guitar has a Super Distortion, Area 67, and Injector in it. My PC1 has been a workhorse and I modded it to suit my needs in a cover band.
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This I can agree with because the sustainer is a novelty, unless you play exactly like PC who does use the harmonic mode a lot. The sustainer mode is nice but I don't use it much. It's a bit specialist. Modifying it to suit your own needs is understandable
 
rcm78 said:
My Jackson PC1 is a 2009 model. The neck measures .83 at the first fret. The profile is a D shape with noticeable shoulder. The shoulders make the neck feel bigger than it is.
This is the guitar in its current state with vintage copper hardware, SS frets, Super Distortion, Area 67, and Injector pickups.View attachment 152023
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That is nice - is that a natural? I've got a solar, always like the natural. A friend had the chlorine which was quite amazing colour when you see it in real life
 
Paulzx said:
That is nice - is that a natural? I've got a solar, always like the natural. A friend had the chlorine which was quite amazing colour when you see it in real life
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Yes, it's a Natural. The original finish wore out and the top became stained with sweat and grime. I had it refinished in satin poly so it should stay clean from now on...
 
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