Gasp100 said:
SRVetta said:
Hello All,
This longtime lurker finally speaks out -- in defense of his beloved Atomic FR's...
I agree the high end is rolled off out-of-the-box. Some might prefer this, but I like my patches with plenty of grit.
So... I dialed up a PEQ that matches my studio monitors VERY closely -with equal high end detail - and that's with the tweeter set at noon. Now the only significant difference I notice is the Atomics sound more in-the-room than the studio monitors -- oh, and they look much better too!
I use OUT1 to the mixer/monitors/DAW, and OUT2 to the Atomics via an ART Clean Box (1/4" to balanced XLR) to kill the noise from my light dimmers. I simply insert the PEQ and LOOP into every patch and I've got the best of both worlds - the same sounds come from the Atomics and the studio monitors.
So this being my first post... Thanks Cliff ! Thanks Tom! Thank you FAS team! and thanks to all the forum members who've helped me along the way.
SRVetta
I would like to see your PEQ settings as well. I'm currently setup the exact same way (output 2 <L and R> to DAW out to Adam A5's) and output 1 <L> XLR out to Atomic. I use PEQ in BOTH scenarios right now, but I much prefer the tones I'm getting through the Atomic. I have a lot more tweaking to do to find the sweet spot between the Atomic FR config and the exact same patch on the Adam A5's. I think a few things that don't translate are:
1. Low end response on the small 5" drivers in the Adams
2. High end detail seems more harsh on the Adam A5's
3. Overdrive at low volumes sounds raspy on the A5's, but it sounds EXCELLENT on the Atomic FR. Once again, due to the 12" drive on the Atomic FR I presume. I can dial volumes down so I can hear the pick attack and a "shadow" of the overdrive on the Atomic's and it still sounds (and feels) really good. That is just not happening through the Adam A5's.
4. The Adam A5's are pointing at my head... the Atomic is 6" off the floor on a stand, but still much lower so obviously that accounts for a lot as well.
Finally had some time with the Axe tonight. Here are the PEQ settings I'm using on Out2 (Atomic FR's) to match up to my studio monitors (Out 1). Gasp 100, from your description above I doubt we'll be in the same ballpark as I'm primarily adding low and high end to the Atomics.
Disclaimers :
- I'm new at this, so go easy on me (you too JM!)
- My monitors are Behringer
Truth B2031A's + a sub
- I tried to match the responses at my listening position in front of the Truth's, Atomics are at either end of the untreated room (12" off the floor), so room effects are very much baked into my EQ settings
- as I said before, I like high end grit, of which the Truth's seem to have plenty
- I play at low to medium volume
Here are two EQ versions I'm using . The first requires two blocks -- I'd like to get it back down to one if possible.
Main PEQ
/1(shelf) / 2 / 3 / 4 / 5(shelf)
Freq /35 / 530 / 2065 / 2862 / 8530
Q /.6 / 3.67 / 3.15 / 5 / .905
Gain /12 / 7.37 / -10 / 3.5 / 9.54
Aux PEQ
/2 /3
Freq/ 5805 /7216
Q/ 2.315 /4.09
Gain/ -2.08 /6.43
Version 2 (single PEQ block)
/1(shelf) /2 /3 /4 /5(shelf)
Freq /35 /530 /2065 /n/a /8530
Q /.6 /3.67 /3.15 /n/a /.905
Gain /12 /7.37 /-8.98 /n/a /12
YMMV of course, but just wanted to point out that for me the Atomics seem to produce the full spectrum from ridiculous lows --matching my sub-equipped monitor setup-- to very detailed highs.
SRVetta
