Surfy reverb

chillybilly

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In about a 2 month span I've done a great deal of homework in creating and tweaking presets for a covers band and doing several gigs. As related in a longer post elsewhere, the consistency/quality of live sound, monitoring options and ease of setup/teardown have been a revelation. I still feel 'survivor's guilt' regarding the speedy process before and after gigs with few or no headaches attempting, for example, to diagnose a loose patch cable on a pedalboard or to make sure all the knobs/settings on various pedals haven't moved in transport. I've always mucked in on lights & PA gear but now I do more of it!

Anyway...I've I finally had enough time to create some presets for me personally, as it were. One of them is a surf preset. As above, I've posted elsewhere about wanting a blonde Fender piggyback model (eg Showman or Bandmaster) but per forum advice the 6G12 Concert does a decent job especially with some compression in front. Which brings us to the equally vital surf ingredient of reverb. As we know, reverb is a CPU-hungry beast. As we also know, proper outboard reverb tanks have a mechanical (for lack of a better term) component - real springs react in some random, occasionally noisy ways but that's part of their charm. They also have their own tube(s) and that influences the sound as well, especially when placed before the amp input.

I'm probably not the first to ask but I'm trying to get something drippy, clucky, surfy. Right now I've gone for large hall and various/random tweaks with size, reflection etc.

Would be curious to know if others have done same and what they might have come up with.
 
In about a 2 month span I've done a great deal of homework in creating and tweaking presets for a covers band and doing several gigs. As related in a longer post elsewhere, the consistency/quality of live sound, monitoring options and ease of setup/teardown have been a revelation. I still feel 'survivor's guilt' regarding the speedy process before and after gigs with few or no headaches attempting, for example, to diagnose a loose patch cable on a pedalboard or to make sure all the knobs/settings on various pedals haven't moved in transport. I've always mucked in on lights & PA gear but now I do more of it!

Anyway...I've I finally had enough time to create some presets for me personally, as it were. One of them is a surf preset. As above, I've posted elsewhere about wanting a blonde Fender piggyback model (eg Showman or Bandmaster) but per forum advice the 6G12 Concert does a decent job especially with some compression in front. Which brings us to the equally vital surf ingredient of reverb. As we know, reverb is a CPU-hungry beast. As we also know, proper outboard reverb tanks have a mechanical (for lack of a better term) component - real springs react in some random, occasionally noisy ways but that's part of their charm. They also have their own tube(s) and that influences the sound as well, especially when placed before the amp input.

I'm probably not the first to ask but I'm trying to get something drippy, clucky, surfy. Right now I've gone for large hall and various/random tweaks with size, reflection etc.

Would be curious to know if others have done same and what they might have come up with.
I like the deluxe spring reverb block and I generally run it either between the amp and can or before the amp.
 
Taken to the extreme, but you get the idea.



And...you think I can find the post with the preset in it now? Nope. Sigh. I'll dig around.

Check out the "boing" parameters on the spring reverb types. That clip was probably Medium Spring. 100% boing. Extra springs. Bright on the spring tone. Maybe? REV block would have been placed between the AMP and CAB blocks, I suspect.
 
Taken to the extreme, but you get the idea.



And...you think I can find the post with the preset in it now? Nope. Sigh. I'll dig around.

Check out the "boing" parameters on the spring reverb types. That clip was probably Medium Spring. 100% boing. Extra springs. Bright on the spring tone. Maybe? REV block would have been placed between the AMP and CAB blocks, I suspect.

sounds great what amp did you use for that?
 
Thanks I’ll experiment. I have typically placed the reverb block after cab just before output. Of course this differs from the real world scenario I described.
 
Thanks I’ll experiment. I have typically placed the reverb block after cab just before output. Of course this differs from the real world scenario I described.
The CAB is linear unless you're using the features that mimic the coil distortion and what not (I can't, off the top of my head, remember which parameters make it non-linear but give it a moment and someone will come by and tell me what they are). So placement doesn't usually matter, unless you're touching those parameters. But sometimes I like the image of AMP > REV > CAB -- helps get me in the mood -- so I run i that way.
 
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