Setting outputs with different layouts.

[Rene van Engelen]

This week my Ax Fx3 arrives. After selling my Ax FX2 I was without an Axe for too long.
Now I plan to put my presets directly into it in the most practical way for me.
In the Ax Fx2 I had a signal, with amp and cab sim to one output, and a dry signal through the FX block to the other output.
Since the Ax Fx3, has 4 outputs I want to use that as well.
I always want to send the same preset to 3 outputs, which can be used simultaneously
1x signal with amp and cab sim (FOH)
1x signal with amp sim without cab sim (Matrix amp + 4x12)
1x signal without amp and without cab cim (Mesa 2:90 + 4x12)

What is the easiest and most straightforward way to do this?

 

[chris]

Put the different output blocks in the preset like you mentioned.

 

[Rene van Engelen]

Am I understanding correctly that I will be able to individually turn the amp sim and cab sim on or off, per outputblock?

 

[yek]

Nope.

But you can design a grid layout that serves your purpose.

 

[Rene van Engelen]

So the easiest way to do this is as following:


Power amp modeling in Setup- global is ON

Cabinet modeling in Setup-global is ON



1x signal with amp and cab sim (FOH)

Default in using the amp and cab block



1x signal with amp sim without cab sim (Matrix amp + 4x12)

Same as above, but leave out the cab block



1x signal without amp and without cab cim (Mesa 2:90 + 4x12)

Same as above, with the cab block left out and the power amp simulation in the amp block on “off”



Is this correct or can it be done easier?

 

[Smittefar]

You need a separate amp block with power amp sim off, but yes your setup can be achieved with 2 amp blocks, 1 cab block and three output blocks.

 

[LigLury]

So the easiest way to do this is as following:


Power amp modeling in Setup- global is ON

Cabinet modeling in Setup-global is ON



1x signal with amp and cab sim (FOH)

Default in using the amp and cab block



1x signal with amp sim without cab sim (Matrix amp + 4x12)

Same as above, but leave out the cab block



1x signal without amp and without cab cim (Mesa 2:90 + 4x12)

Same as above, with the cab block left out and the power amp simulation in the amp block on “off”



Is this correct or can it be done easier?

Easier.

1 signal through amp/cab.
2 split signal after amp before cab.
3 split signal before amp.

 

[JPE]

Easier.

1 signal through amp/cab.
2 split signal after amp before cab.
3 split signal before amp.

Normally my effects (reverb, delay, etc) are after the cab block. In this way the cab block will have to be at the end of the chain, just before Out1 and the split will be just before the cab block to go to Out 2. Will that be affecting the sound too much?

 

[chris]

Normally my effects (reverb, delay, etc) are after the cab block. In this way the cab block will have to be at the end of the chain, just before Out1 and the split will be just before the cab block to go to Out 2. Will that be affecting the sound too much?

No, this is the recommended way.

 

[LigLury]

It would look like this

 

[chris]

It would look like this

View attachment 91117

I would put the cab last so you can send the other blocks to the outputs as desired, but generally yes this is what it could look like.

 

[Greg Ferguson]

It would look like this

View attachment 91117

Or, for a more efficient flow, remove all the shunts and save some CPU %.

Unlike previous Fractal products, the OUT 3 block can actually be immediately before the AMP block, passing into it, and OUT 2 can be between the AMP and CAB blocks, allowing a single chain, however, with that many blocks in the image you’ll be forced to use a pair of FEEDBACK blocks.

See the second example image on page 6 of the Blocks guide.

 

[JPE]

This is my standard: Out 1 is for the FRFR monitor, Out 2 bypasses the Cab block and is for use with the Matrix power amp and two 1x12"speaker cab, Out3 - In 3 is in use for outboard gear (Shiva the Wave and Eclipse)