Sennheiser HD600 vs Beyerdynamic DT880 Pros for creating presets

[∞Fractals]

For the Ollo users here: any thoughts on the S4X vs S5X for our purposes?

I’ve not tried the 4s but drive the 5s … Open backed and angled drivers (soundstage).

They give me the most accurate representation of what’s going into my DAW/mix (out of many pairs tried incl BD880; gave them away - yuk).

Think clarity, detail and they hang w/ challenging audio.

I think only one time that I fouled up a mix because I forgot to go back to the mains and missed all the sub 80s. But that’s all headphones.

 

[FPFL]

To anyone else reading, anything can work. Knowing your source and knowing your preferred targets what matters.
I always liked what the guys in The Cars said in the late 70s, to paraphrase, "No mix was final until we drove around with it in a few different cars. Our target was sounding good on car stereos."

Artists today mix for laptop speakers and $20 earbuds in many cases. Say its sad, and I agree, but they know where its going to get heard.

 

[Goonie]

Sony MDR-7506 and corrective EQ. These correct really well and they translated perfectly to our tuned FOH system. I’ve had terrible results with my Sennheiser HD’s and took a gamble on the Sony’s. Whatever you end up using, EQ correction is a must.

I have used the 7605's for a long time. I have never done the EQ correction though. What are you doing for that? I have read up on it only a little.

 

[Karl Houseknecht]

I have used the 7605's for a long time. I have never done the EQ correction though. What are you doing for that? I have read up on it only a little.

Autoeq.app. Select those headphones and a curve, select 10 band EQ as the EQ app, and apply it to your global output EQ. Works great. I stuck with the 2018 Harman over ear curve and I know that’s not flat, but it totally worked in my case.

Harman:


Flat:

 

[Goonie]

Autoeq.app. Select those headphones and a curve, select 10 band EQ as the EQ app, and apply it to your global output EQ. Works great. I stuck with the 2018 Harman over ear curve and I know that’s not flat, but it totally worked in my case.

Harman:
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Flat:
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Sweet, thanks. I did see on the frequency chart for the 7506's that the highs are up quite a bit.
I was looking to maybe try out the Audio Technica ATH-m50x. They seem flatter but less low end. I'll give some of this a try.
Thanks.

 

[Karl Houseknecht]

Sweet, thanks. I did see on the frequency chart for the 7506's that the highs are up quite a bit.
I was looking to maybe try out the Audio Technica ATH-m50x. They seem flatter but less low end. I'll give some of this a try.
Thanks.

Yeah, the Sonys are hyped in the high mids. But they correct closer to either curve than my other headphones. And they’re so comfy.

 

[marsonic]

I stuck with the 2018 Harman over ear curve and I know that’s not flat, but it totally worked in my case.

Headphones are not supposed to be flat. That's essentially why the Harman curves exist - they were based on a combination of measurements and trained listeners adjusting things until they sounded right.

 

[Karl Houseknecht]

Headphones are not supposed to be flat. That's essentially why the Harman curves exist - they were based on a combination of measurements and trained listeners adjusting things until they sounded right.

Yeah, I get that, but there’s a lot of weight given to flat reference systems with regard to modeling gear. I was pointing out that this doesn’t need to be the case.