Reduce fizz on High Gain amps

OwenTheBrit

OwenTheBrit

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I have my preset in a pretty good shape...I have a lead tone using a Solo 100...great sustain...all that you would want. (think Whitesnake, Is This Love). Would just like to reduce the Fizz and get it a little smoother (and tighter of course:D). What secret/rarely used amp settings (or other secret sauce) are there that can help me tame the fizz but keep the sustain and the remainder of the tone. (Not IR/Cab adjustments as I feel I have spent enough time there, choosing cabs and adjusting High Cut).
Anyone out there with good experience of the nuanced controls here ? thanks in advance.
 
OwenTheBrit said:
I have my preset in a pretty good shape...I have a lead tone using a Solo 100...great sustain...all that you would want. (think Whitesnake, Is This Love). Would just like to reduce the Fizz and get it a little smoother (and tighter of course:D). What secret/rarely used amp settings (or other secret sauce) are there that can help me tame the fizz but keep the sustain and the remainder of the tone. (Not IR/Cab adjustments as I feel I have spent enough time there, choosing cabs and adjusting High Cut).
Anyone out there with good experience of the nuanced controls here ? thanks in advance.
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Bright cap value
Pres freq are a few that could help
Or a PEQ after amp block
 
That fizz comes with the territory. You can lower the triode plate frequency even more than it is. I believe that is the plate resistor bypass caps that act like a high cut on the output of the preamp triodes. That’s how they do it on the real amps. You’ll need to dump highs which also muffles the tone. It’s called intermodulation distortion and it’s normal tube behavior. I don’t think it’s possible to eliminate it without ruining your top end but you can tame it down a bit.
 
That fizz is what helps a lot of high gain amps cut through and give clarity in a mix. Many people’s favorite “smooth” tones are much more hairy than they realize. Don’t be surprised if you lose clarity and brilliance if you start trying to take out a bunch of it.
 
Budda said:
Whats the feedback from the other players?
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None its just my personal prefereence. But I think I know what you are getting at and @VESmedic is saying. I might be chasing an issue that isnt a problem live
VESmedic said:
That fizz is what helps a lot of high gain amps cut through and give clarity in a mix. Many people’s favorite “smooth” tones are much more hairy than they realize. Don’t be surprised if you lose clarity and brilliance if you start trying to take out a bunch of it.
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VESmedic said:
That fizz is what helps a lot of high gain amps cut through and give clarity in a mix. Many people’s favorite “smooth” tones are much more hairy than they realize. Don’t be surprised if you lose clarity and brilliance if you start trying to take out a bunch of it.
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That is the real concise wisdom right there, every word. Some fizz is part of the "magic".

Isolate some of your favorite tracks to confirm. I do this time to time or I wind up chasing tone that winds up not working as I want it to in the mix.
 
Another thing you might try is running a cleaner amp type and run a drive in front of it just to try something a little different. Some combonations can yeild a distortion that is not as fizzy but still has has a heavy sound to it.
 
Use the high cut in the preamp section of the cab block. That was a huge game changer for my axefx experience. Usually cutting around 8000hz is a good starting pointing.
 
I mostly play super high gain stuff (death metal territory) using the euro uber model. Gain at 6 or 7 using boost as well. Noise gate is off as i want full control and i like cab feedback. It's the best tone i ever had easily compared to expensive tube amps. It's just real and alive forcing me to do better as a guitarist and use my hands as the instrument. I really can't understand how a DSP chip can drive real cabs as good as the best tube amps.
 
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