Noise Gate and Volume Pedal order

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algiman

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Hope you can help, I might just not be seeing how to do this. Using 4CM, I want the noise gate after my preamp, but before the volume pedal so it doesn't affect the ability to do volume swells post preamp. So the chain would be:

Guitar>FX8 input [gate detection point]>some effects I want before the amp>amp in>amp effects loop send>FX8 in>Gate>Vol>some effects I want in the loop>amp effects loop return

As far as I can work out, the only way is to sacrifice a could of effects slots for vol and gate, and give up on the global volume control? This seems odd, as the routing shown can't be that unusual. I know I could move the volume function to the FX8 output>power amp, but that would mean it also cuts off delays, reverb etc which I really don't want.
 
algiman said:
Hope you can help, I might just not be seeing how to do this. Using 4CM, I want the noise gate after my preamp, but before the volume pedal so it doesn't affect the ability to do volume swells post preamp. So the chain would be:

Guitar>FX8 input [gate detection point]>some effects I want before the amp>amp in>amp effects loop send>FX8 in>Gate>Vol>some effects I want in the loop>amp effects loop return

As far as I can work out, the only way is to sacrifice a could of effects slots for vol and gate, and give up on the global volume control? This seems odd, as the routing shown can't be that unusual. I know I could move the volume function to the FX8 output>power amp, but that would mean it also cuts off delays, reverb etc which I really don't want.
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I have an ISP Decimator 2 G-String intercepting the send for this exact reason.
 
Meh. I am not bothered. Extra pedal for reverb, extra pedal for perfect tracking noise gate.. No big deal.
 
algiman said:
Hope you can help, I might just not be seeing how to do this. Using 4CM, I want the noise gate after my preamp, but before the volume pedal so it doesn't affect the ability to do volume swells post preamp. So the chain would be:

Guitar>FX8 input [gate detection point]>some effects I want before the amp>amp in>amp effects loop send>FX8 in>Gate>Vol>some effects I want in the loop>amp effects loop return

As far as I can work out, the only way is to sacrifice a could of effects slots for vol and gate, and give up on the global volume control? This seems odd, as the routing shown can't be that unusual. I know I could move the volume function to the FX8 output>power amp, but that would mean it also cuts off delays, reverb etc which I really don't want.
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My solution still requires use of the GATE block in your Post chain, but you can put the External 1 modifier on the output level of the Gate. You will need to adjust the min and max values (you probably don't want to leave the max at +20db), and you can adjust the curve so it feels more natural.
 
Joe Rogers said:
My solution still requires use of the GATE block in your Post chain, but you can put the External 1 modifier on the output level of the Gate. You will need to adjust the min and max values (you probably don't want to leave the max at +20db), and you can adjust the curve so it feels more natural.
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I'll give that a go - thanks. Would be much better if a future update gave us the ability to shift the gate and volumes round a bit more though!
 
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