Midi issue

aggiemike08 said:
Well I use preset and scene changes all the time from Ableton. I did use Onsong years ago and I recall some issues with it, but I was just using it for preset changes when I would pull up a song. So I guess what are you using the scene change within Onsong for? I assume you want to load a certain song and have it go to a shared preset, but a specific scene for that song?
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Are you using Ableton to change scenes with the FM9? I use OnSong to select the Preset and starting Scene. It works fine with the FM3 and Axe FX III so it definitely isn’t OnSong at fault here.
 
Knaggster said:
Are you using Ableton to change scenes with the FM9? I use OnSong to select the Preset and starting Scene. It works fine with the FM3 and Axe FX III so it definitely isn’t OnSong at fault here.
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Yes I use ableton to change scenes on the FM9.
 
Knaggster said:
Are you using Ableton to change scenes with the FM9? I use OnSong to select the Preset and starting Scene. It works fine with the FM3 and Axe FX III so it definitely isn’t OnSong at fault here.
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As I mentioned, am using BandHelper (very similar to OnSong) and I can select Preset and Scene, but I had to do it differently in BandHelper from the way I am doing it using my FXIII. There is something different in the way FM9 is processing MIDI but it does work.
Have you tried only a Scene change midi in OnSong by itself, no associated preset change?
 
zionplayer said:
As I mentioned, am using BandHelper (very similar to OnSong) and I can select Preset and Scene, but I had to do it differently in BandHelper from the way I am doing it using my FXIII. There is something different in the way FM9 is processing MIDI but it does work.
Have you tried only a Scene change midi in OnSong by itself, no associated preset change?
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Well this is very interesting. Sending the CC# + Value alone DOES change the Scene (albeit not on the FM9 display as noted earlier in this thread - a known bug). If I put anything before that command - even just a Delay - it doesn't work . . .
 
Yep, same thing I experienced. Very strange, almost like once it processed the first midi command it ignores the second one. Gotta be a code issue…

BandHelper allows PC and CC in the same midi preset- that’s how I am now getting preset and scene changes to work together in FM9
 
zionplayer said:
Yep, same thing I experienced. Very strange, almost like once it processed the first midi command it ignores the second one. Gotta be a code issue…

BandHelper allows PC and CC in the same midi preset- that’s how I am now getting preset and scene changes to work together in FM9
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OnSong allows multiple midi commands in the same preset also, but they are sent in the order you list them in. Is BandHelper different somehow?
 
Knaggster said:
OnSong allows multiple midi commands in the same preset also, but they are sent in the order you list them in. Is BandHelper different somehow?
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It does allow you to specify - send PC, then CC, then raw Hex, then attached presets, etc... and if you want time between them. I have 0.4 sec between sends...
 
zionplayer said:
It does allow you to specify - send PC, then CC, then raw Hex, then attached presets, etc... and if you want time between them. I have 0.4 sec between sends...
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Interesting. OnSong will do the same. There is more than one way to do it though so I will experiment further. Thanks for your input!
 
In addition to OnSong on my iPad, I also tried sending midi commands from an Airstep footswitch. Same result - a Scene Change command on it's own works fine, but if it is preceded by a PC command, the FM9 ignores the CC. I can send 2 or 3 CCs and the FM9 will respond to the last one sent (expected behavior).
 
OK . . . . I believe I have a fix. The FM9 (unlike the FM3 and Axe FX III) seems to need a Delay of at least 500 ms between Midi commands. So, when I send a Midi preset containing a PC (for preset selection) followed by a 500 ms Delay, and then a CC (for Scene change) everything works . . . . It only took two days :p
 
Knaggster said:
OK . . . . I believe I have a fix. The FM9 (unlike the FM3 and Axe FX III) seems to need a Delay of at least 500 ms between Midi commands. So, when I send a Midi preset containing a PC (for preset selection) followed by a 500 ms Delay, and then a CC (for Scene change) everything works . . . . It only took two days :p
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Hmm.... Michael Pickens mentions a comms slowdown was fixed in FM9Edit for the recent release in the release notes, and it does go a fair bit more smoothly now. I wonder if that shares some common causes with this, since FM9Edit uses MIDI to communicate with the FM9. I still occasionally get things freezing if FM9Edit-ing too quickly, and it is occasionally a little slow to respond to changes in FM9Edit. Maybe the FM9 hardware or firmware has a minor comms issue....
 
Joe Bfstplk said:
Hmm.... Michael Pickens mentions a comms slowdown was fixed in FM9Edit for the recent release in the release notes, and it does go a fair bit more smoothly now. I wonder if that shares some common causes with this, since FM9Edit uses MIDI to communicate with the FM9. I still occasionally get things freezing if FM9Edit-ing too quickly, and it is occasionally a little slow to respond to changes in FM9Edit. Maybe the FM9 hardware or firmware has a minor comms issue....
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Hmmm. Good point. I wonder if Michael could comment. @Admin M@
 
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