Ideal Studio Monitor?

Just thinking out loud here, if Atomic Amps would make a studio monitor specifically for the Axe FX, what would be specialized to accommodate it? If not Atomic, then what company has any features that the Axe FX can take advantage of. I am new to studio monitors so this is all new. Thanks.
 
An "ideal" studio monitor is true FRFR - full range and flat response.
So Atomic would aim at developing & producing a product, that already a lot of companies have put in the stores.

"Specifically for the Axe-Fx" would make sense only if the Axe-Fx had some kind of frequency response that's not flat,
and an Atomic Studio Monitor would be designed to compensate for this less-than-ideal frequency response.
If that were the case, you probably wouldn't want to use such compensating monitors, because everything you hear on those
(e.g. tweaking patches, mixing recordings) wouldn't translate well to other sound reproduction systems, like P.A. .
 
Studio monitors, or aka near-field monitors need to be flat and have lots of headroom.

The rest of your thoughts are simply discussion points.

In the end, it doesn't need to be 'specific to the Axe-FX' in a studio setting at all. The key is hearing what you are getting accurately, with as little color as possible. And your room acoustics come into play on this too, as important or even more-so than your actual monitors. The entire system is indeed a system that must function hand-in-hand.
 
Studio monitors, or aka near-field monitors need to be flat and have lots of headroom.

The rest of your thoughts are simply discussion points.

In the end, it doesn't need to be 'specific to the Axe-FX' in a studio setting at all. The key is hearing what you are getting accurately, with as little color as possible. And your room acoustics come into play on this too, as important or even more-so than your actual monitors. The entire system is indeed a system that must function hand-in-hand.
That part can't be stressed strongly enough unfortunately.

The only thing that I'd like to add to this is that something that I've learned (correct me if I'm wrong), but when shopping for monitors and then coming home and installing them I discovered that what sounded 'best' to me and what was more accurate were two different things.

As an example, people seem to love to use Bose stuff (I never understood the buzz) but they do have their application at the end user level, but if you tried to use them to do accurate mixes chances are that your settings are going to be very colored (of course, we know that).

But going away from the extreme analogy, there are still plenty of monitors that sounded more musical to me than what I ended up buying (sounded warmer, more bass, a little wider), but that was all coloration from the monitor. As you know you need to get something that is as flat as possible and that doesn't always sound the most pleasing so keep that in mind when A/B'ing them. Your ears are going to gravitate towards what we enjoy listening to and have been conditioned to think of as good quality speakers, you want something that is critical, linear across the audible spectrum and that you can hear imperfections in the audio.

So the most accurate monitors may actually be the ones that sound the worst depending on the source of your audio. :razz

I remember when I got my monitors and new audio interface home, hooked them up and started questioning myself immediately. Every MP3 I had sounded bad. My old speakers and consumer soundcard sounded great compared to these. It was the first time I ever heard all the errors that all those 'tone snobs' had been talking about for years. Nothing was wrong with my monitors, on the contrary I finally had a system that was going to show me all the warts so that I could catch them before it went to the final product.

What I discovered though was that listening to songs that I grew up with I was hearing things in the songs that I never even knew were there. Every instrument had it's own space and I remember thinking "I didn't know they used a tamborine on that song" or hearing a cowbell buried in the mix somewhere.
 
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\So the most accurate monitors may actually be the ones that sound the worst depending on the source of your audio. :razz

Reminds me of Yamaha NS-10's. Possibly not the most accurate monitors, but supposedly if you can make a mix sound good on them, it will sound good on anything.
 
Reminds me of Yamaha NS-10's. Possibly not the most accurate monitors, but supposedly if you can make a mix sound good on them, it will sound good on anything.

Very few people mix solely on NS-10's.
Almost always it will be 2-3 sets of monitors- and reference checks on headphones, mono (for AM radio, less critical these days) and even out to the car.
 
Reminds me of Yamaha NS-10's. Possibly not the most accurate monitors, but supposedly if you can make a mix sound good on them, it will sound good on anything.

Yep....I got the HS80M's. :) I spent weeks A/B'ing before I made a choice and these were the ones that everything in the mix stood out to me (under $1k a pair anyway).
 
Very few people mix solely on NS-10's.
Almost always it will be 2-3 sets of monitors- and reference checks on headphones, mono (for AM radio, less critical these days) and even out to the car.

another I kept seeing from multiple people while reading "the mixing engineer's handbook" is standing outside the room
 
can anyone comment on the krk vxt 8's vs. the adam a7x's, or others even? i'm not sure what i'm looking for yet; accuracy and power mostly. no recording planned yet, but they'd be great to have on hand already when the time comes...

right now, those adam and krk are the same price @ musiciansfriend.

also, is it stupid to connect the axe xlr out to monitors with a cable that is unbalanced?
 
can anyone comment on the krk vxt 8's vs. the adam a7x's, or others even? i'm not sure what i'm looking for yet; accuracy and power mostly. no recording planned yet, but they'd be great to have on hand already when the time comes...

right now, those adam and krk are the same price @ musiciansfriend.

also, is it stupid to connect the axe xlr out to monitors with a cable that is unbalanced?
I can't comment on the Adams, but I thought that the KRK's were decent. To be honest if I had gotten the same deal on them as I did on the HS80M's I would have went that route too.

As for the balanced/unbalanced thing; for me it makes no sense to do it, but I've got miles of cable and hundreds of XLR's laying around. I just can't bring myself to using unbalanced for anything. But it's not an issue unless the run is relatively long and you have interference, then it's a problem. If you've already got unbalanced cables give them a shot, you can always get other cables later on.
 
krk's just seem to come up more often is all. i like the look of the adam's better--the krk's look childish, like it belongs in a middle schooler's bedroom. but, if the power handling and reproduction is awesome, then maybe i can ignore the look. functionally, they should be pretty comparable, for basic use w/ an ultra in my living room, yes?

As for the balanced/unbalanced thing; for me it makes no sense to do it, but I've got miles of cable and hundreds of XLR's laying around. I just can't bring myself to using unbalanced for anything. But it's not an issue unless the run is relatively long and you have interference, then it's a problem. If you've already got unbalanced cables give them a shot, you can always get other cables later on.
tru, no reason to skimp at this point w/ an axe + mfc already. :D unfortunately some monitors (like the adam's) only take xlr balanced, while the cables i have are trs 1/4". not a big deal, but the krk has the dual-type input going on for them. when i make up some longer cables for whichever floor wedge i end up with, then that'll be different.
 
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It's a small part when compared to the £700 price tag of the monitors.
buy the cables and buy the adams a7x - there I've said it. Someone had to.
 
Lots of threads about this.
I bought the Adam A7Xs for home use and like them a lot. Better than any other amplification method I'm using or used with the Axe-Fx.
Can't imagine wanting to switch to other monitors.
 
Lots of threads about this.
I bought the Adam A7Xs for home use and like them a lot. Better than any other amplification method I'm using or used with the Axe-Fx.
Can't imagine wanting to switch to other monitors.
better than mackie hr824's also? seems most on this board either say adam, yamaha something, or even more random option i'd never heard of before looking it up. granted i was never interested in monitors until recently...
 
better than mackie hr824's also? seems most on this board either say adam, yamaha something, or even more random option i'd never heard of before looking it up. granted i was never interested in monitors until recently...

Can't tell, haven't used those.
 
I like the A7X's, I'd think it's hard to find anything superior at the same price point, but like Yek I haven't tried them all. My only lingering issue is whether I should swap out the A7X's for the Atomics. Unless I get drunk one night and press the Atomic website "Purchase" button, I'm committed to the A7X's for at least six months just to be sure they are right for me. I haven't even scratched the surface of the Axe, so it's too soon for me to be swapping out perfectly good equipment.
 
Adams for me, but I got the A7's--the X's hadn't come out yet.

The only issues I had with them were my fault--be careful how high you turn the output 1 up on the Axe-FX. You can get them to distort in the low mids if you aren't careful.
 
Focal CMS 65's are top of the line..unbelievable with the Ax, mine cost me £1000 after bargaining down from £1200, worth every penny. The bass response is excellent, very difficult to get them to distort and the clarity is amazing.
At that price range I don't think anything compares! But there are many great options at different price levels..guess it depends on getting the best your budget allows!
 
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