Help with this tone/effect

[Wigam2]

near the end of the clip, you can hear the guitar trying to feedback and it’s this brooding effect that I’m after rather than the tone necessarily.

I’ve tried all sorts of effects in all sorts of orders and can’t seem to get this ‘on the verge of feedback’ effect.

Not really looking for a feedback workaround, but more this near feedback state.

I hear this quite a bit in P&W guitar but haven’t figured it out yet. Thoughts?

https://on.soundcloud.com/rucGf48j5iLC3Ww86

 

[strabes]

That type of sound comes from running wet effects into the front of an edge-of-breakup amp. The delay and reverb combine with the dry before the amp, and when they hit the front of the amp it breaks up and compresses in a unique way that cannot be achieved when running wet fx after the amp. The clip you posted is a more extreme example, either the amps are gained up past edge of breakup or the drive pedal is boosting the front of the amps pretty hard.

The clip below is my AC20 preset with some of the blocks turned on. The amps and cabs are at the end of the preset and all the other blocks are running into the front of the amps, including delay and reverb, as is pretty standard in the analog pedalboard + amp world. At the end I turn off the drive and wet fx so you can hear just the compressor & amps:
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/eq8n...demo.m4a?rlkey=9aqoppms0jlr4g1r5j1i42etf&dl=0.

I didn't tweak anything but if I wanted more of that chaotic distortion semi-feedback that happens in a setup like this I'd turn up the level on the drive block to really slam the front of the amps, or turn on the klon which I have set above unity, or just turn up the amp drive.

Also worth noting that Fractal handles this behavior by far the best of any modeler I've tried. A lot of modelers have decent sounding amps but the sound disintegrates once you run wet effects into the front of the amp models, whereas Fractal nails the behavior perfectly.

 

[bleujazz3]

near the end of the clip, you can hear the guitar trying to feedback and it’s this brooding effect that I’m after rather than the tone necessarily.

I’ve tried all sorts of effects in all sorts of orders and can’t seem to get this ‘on the verge of feedback’ effect.

Not really looking for a feedback workaround, but more this near feedback state.

I hear this quite a bit in P&W guitar but haven’t figured it out yet. Thoughts?

https://on.soundcloud.com/rucGf48j5iLC3Ww86

@Wigam2,

Try setting up a compressor block with the optical or JFET sustainer, using the modifiers selected in the link below. Provides on call feedback with a momentary footswitch...place a per-preset placeholder on an unused foot switch. I'll be busy until about 10 PM EST, but can check back with you then to see how you're doing...

https://forum.fractalaudio.com/threads/optical-jfet-sustainer-issue.200997/