Headless anyone?

pima1234 said:
Here is my last remaining Forshage Orion. I've been able to own 5 over the years, each one was excellent. This is the custom one I worked on with Chris years ago. Solid ash body, amazing neck, Throbak Peter Greens w/ BK Irish Tour single, J Custom trem, nice switching options. Comes in a little over 7 lbs. Just a great guitar. I have it up on Reverb, but won't be sad to keep it if it doesn't sell.

And yes, I am well aware that the unusual shape is a turn-off for many people. I promise that, if you are a neck-up player, the position is worth it. Kleins are rare item now, and Chris is still building these, and doing some absolutely incredible work. He puts up videos on YT of most of his builds.

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I still don't really want to sell this, but it's been up on Reverb for a little while now. A man in Canada is making an offer, but shipping and import taxes and duties make it so cost-prohibitive, then there's the shipping cost on top of it all.

I'm actually going to suggest he contact Chris about having one built.
 
Riccardo Ros said:
Is the Aristides a recent acquisition? I bet it plays like butter
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Mine certainly does. Quite simply the most comfortable thing with 6 strings - I don't usually use a strap and it just sits there super comfortable - new heights of ergonomics. Aesthetics maybe won't suit everyone but functionally 100%. I was initially concerned about the fret fanning but its' barely noticeable playing it and the extended length in the bass really works. Cannot recommend enough.PXL_20240915_062429323.jpg
 
sb-SG said:
Mine certainly does. Quite simply the most comfortable thing with 6 strings - I don't usually use a strap and it just sits there super comfortable - new heights of ergonomics. Aesthetics maybe won't suit everyone but functionally 100%. I was initially concerned about the fret fanning but it’s' barely noticeable playing it and the extended length in the bass really works. Cannot recommend enough.View attachment 145394
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I have hardly played anything else since I got mine. It’s so loud acoustically that I often play it unplugged. What strings are you using on yours?
 
Related, maybe, I've recently developed some annoying discomfort in my left forearm and/or wrist. I've been playing for almost 60 years with no such issues, so it's not at all clear it's guitar related, but I'm not aware of having stressed it in any unusual way otherwise.

My Collings, which I love, is definitely more work to play than my others, always has been. I got it almost exactly 2 years ago, and this arm thing is new in the last few weeks, so not a clear correlation. I'd hate to have to give it up.

I sit down to play a lot of the time, with a strap. I've been wondering whether raising up my playing position would help. That's when I haven't been hoping it'd just go away...

Has anyone dealt with something like this? Any thoughts?

I've also been wondering about trying a strandberg or other ergonomically optimized/different guitar, not sure how much difference that'd make. Wish there were some super handy to try. @pima1234, did you end up selling your Orion?
 
Dave Merrill said:
Related, maybe, I've recently developed some annoying discomfort in my left forearm and/or wrist. I've been playing for almost 60 years with no such issues, so it's not at all clear it's guitar related, but I'm not aware of having stressed it in any unusual way otherwise.

My Collings, which I love, is definitely more work to play than my others, always has been. I got it almost exactly 2 years ago, and this arm thing is new in the last few weeks, so not a clear correlation. I'd hate to have to give it up.

I sit down to play a lot of the time, with a strap. I've been wondering whether raising up my playing position would help. That's when I haven't been hoping it'd just go away...

Has anyone dealt with something like this? Any thoughts?

I've also been wondering about trying a strandberg or other ergonomically optimized/different guitar, not sure how much difference that'd make. Wish there were some super handy to try. @pima1234, did you end up selling your Orion?
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I'd be trying to find a knowledgeable physio to try an identify where the discomfort is coming from - can originate in all manner of places for different reasons other than playing position. But for me my 2 favourite guitars have necks that are tucked well into the body ( the Aristides H/0 and a EVH Wolfgang) and that feels way more comfortable than a reach to something like a long scale bass - an extreme example but you take my point. More comfort = far less tiring playing experience. Maybe experiment but some subtle difference in instrument geometry could make a deal of difference.
 
Dave Merrill said:
Related, maybe, I've recently developed some annoying discomfort in my left forearm and/or wrist. I've been playing for almost 60 years with no such issues, so it's not at all clear it's guitar related, but I'm not aware of having stressed it in any unusual way otherwise.

My Collings, which I love, is definitely more work to play than my others, always has been. I got it almost exactly 2 years ago, and this arm thing is new in the last few weeks, so not a clear correlation. I'd hate to have to give it up.

I sit down to play a lot of the time, with a strap. I've been wondering whether raising up my playing position would help. That's when I haven't been hoping it'd just go away...

Has anyone dealt with something like this? Any thoughts?

I've also been wondering about trying a strandberg or other ergonomically optimized/different guitar, not sure how much difference that'd make. Wish there were some super handy to try. @pima1234, did you end up selling your Orion?
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Try playing in a classical position seated. Guitar resting on your left knee. Ergonomically this is best.
You can see the difference it makes for your left arm in these pictures.
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Everything from posture to the wrist is better for you in this stance.
 
Andy Eagle said:
Try playing in a classical position seated. Guitar resting on your left knee. Ergonomically this is best.
You can see the difference it makes for your left arm in these pictures.
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Everything from posture to the wrist is better for you in this stance.
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Thanks Andy.
I think i do that somewhat, just by instinct, but i can try to be more conscious about it.

Do you think the strandberg asymmetrical neck is relevant here?
 
I'm totally new to headless guitars... and got major sticker shock when I looked for a used Strandberg 😳... I found several used copies in the cdn$400 range, but they may be absolute crap. Since I'm just wanting to discover these, a small initial investment is my first goal.

Are there any decent yet affordable brands/models that would be an ok "first headless"?
 
Dpoirier said:
I'm totally new to headless guitars... and got major sticker shock when I looked for a used Strandberg 😳... I found several used copies in the cdn$400 range, but they may be absolute crap. Since I'm just wanting to discover these, a small initial investment is my first goal.

Are there any decent yet affordable brands/models that would be an ok "first headless"?
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Are you wanting 6 strings or more and is multi scale a thing you are interested in?
 
As a very budget minded first step you should look at the Eart . Its wood is visible, no thick finish. Hardware and pickups are its main issues. There is now quite a lot of headless hardware being made in China and it’s not all crap . So if it fails you have options to get it back working.
 
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