Dimitri Carrer
Member
Hi guys,
it's been months of experimenting with DynaCabs.
My personal main issue is that live I use an IEM, Shure 535, that I need for both listening to me properly and to protect my ears since I've tinnitus on both ears.
I've tried many things suggested by the mighty Leon Todd to smooth out stuff: of course I've tried many positioning, mic comb, pan left/righ slightly, reverb, room, compression parameters and what not in the AMP block, SIC on the speaker block, I've a cut on 80Hz and on 5000Hz "plini-style"... but in the end: the sound live is not bad (I've got both the PA and RedSound Elis)... the sound in my ears is always too rich in highs and it's no a problem alone. Live it gets to a point were I simply have an un-ispiring tone expecially on leads. It's super thin, squishy and it's so thin that's hard to play and control dynamics.
My aim is to have a tone with a lot of attack and sustain but no fizz, something you ear frequently expecially from Plini, Jack Gardinier & co.
My debugging/learned includes: lowered the input level of guitars because of clipping, checked all signal levels, tried so many combinations, trying shifting the phase of cabs as LT suggested and much more I can't remember right now...
As test: tonight I'm going to play live and use the LT TV Mix 7 by Leon Todd as test to have a different reference but, testing the IEM at home, I can clearly hear that the top end on leads has its sustain, it's rich, it's clear, bright but thicker on the higher register and way less fizzy than mine.
The problematic experiments were done with Recto 4x12 straight, LT uses a Greenback cab I know, but the Dynacab I took is the one from Chirs Baseford's Gift of Tone.
That said I still find the same characteristics of Leon Todd's cab on, for example, other Gift Of Tone's that do not use the Dynacab (For example Aaron Marshall).
Amp of reference is Mesa MK4, which tends to have some "squeal" in the highs, but I'd like to preserve some of that tone because I love how liquid it can get (Petrucci style) in the high end. I've tried many many many overedrive combinations, now I'm sticking mostly on the CC boost in the amp block to mimic LT and trying to have less variables to confront what I've done with what pro Fractal users do.
I already wrote a lot but the question is:
if I wanna mimic that top end, since the IR LT and AM use are already engineered, how should I approach Dynacab?
Out of phase, cut the frequencies of single cab, consider buying a cab pack with both SM57 off axis and other microphones that may have been used to make their IR...
My reference at home are:
Tannoys 402, old ones, the Shure 535 to test with the XVIVE U4 wireless and the Beyerdynamic DT770 pro
Sorry for the long rant, I hope it was detailed enough to understand what I'm looking for
Maybe the answer is just "throw the Shure in the garbage can", which I could do.. but it's still 400+€ IEM which is not that cheap of an investment (count the fractal, cables, wireless system, shure wireless for guitars, etc etc)
Attaching the preset as reference.
Mesa CAB from Gift of Tone would be in channel C of Cab Block (A now is for all scenes)
This is my Input Levels on setup, which I need for my guitars (Kiesel) not to clip:
it's been months of experimenting with DynaCabs.
My personal main issue is that live I use an IEM, Shure 535, that I need for both listening to me properly and to protect my ears since I've tinnitus on both ears.
I've tried many things suggested by the mighty Leon Todd to smooth out stuff: of course I've tried many positioning, mic comb, pan left/righ slightly, reverb, room, compression parameters and what not in the AMP block, SIC on the speaker block, I've a cut on 80Hz and on 5000Hz "plini-style"... but in the end: the sound live is not bad (I've got both the PA and RedSound Elis)... the sound in my ears is always too rich in highs and it's no a problem alone. Live it gets to a point were I simply have an un-ispiring tone expecially on leads. It's super thin, squishy and it's so thin that's hard to play and control dynamics.
My aim is to have a tone with a lot of attack and sustain but no fizz, something you ear frequently expecially from Plini, Jack Gardinier & co.
My debugging/learned includes: lowered the input level of guitars because of clipping, checked all signal levels, tried so many combinations, trying shifting the phase of cabs as LT suggested and much more I can't remember right now...
As test: tonight I'm going to play live and use the LT TV Mix 7 by Leon Todd as test to have a different reference but, testing the IEM at home, I can clearly hear that the top end on leads has its sustain, it's rich, it's clear, bright but thicker on the higher register and way less fizzy than mine.
The problematic experiments were done with Recto 4x12 straight, LT uses a Greenback cab I know, but the Dynacab I took is the one from Chirs Baseford's Gift of Tone.
That said I still find the same characteristics of Leon Todd's cab on, for example, other Gift Of Tone's that do not use the Dynacab (For example Aaron Marshall).
Amp of reference is Mesa MK4, which tends to have some "squeal" in the highs, but I'd like to preserve some of that tone because I love how liquid it can get (Petrucci style) in the high end. I've tried many many many overedrive combinations, now I'm sticking mostly on the CC boost in the amp block to mimic LT and trying to have less variables to confront what I've done with what pro Fractal users do.
I already wrote a lot but the question is:
if I wanna mimic that top end, since the IR LT and AM use are already engineered, how should I approach Dynacab?
Out of phase, cut the frequencies of single cab, consider buying a cab pack with both SM57 off axis and other microphones that may have been used to make their IR...
My reference at home are:
Tannoys 402, old ones, the Shure 535 to test with the XVIVE U4 wireless and the Beyerdynamic DT770 pro
Sorry for the long rant, I hope it was detailed enough to understand what I'm looking for
Maybe the answer is just "throw the Shure in the garbage can", which I could do.. but it's still 400+€ IEM which is not that cheap of an investment (count the fractal, cables, wireless system, shure wireless for guitars, etc etc)
Attaching the preset as reference.
Mesa CAB from Gift of Tone would be in channel C of Cab Block (A now is for all scenes)
This is my Input Levels on setup, which I need for my guitars (Kiesel) not to clip:
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