Fractal Talk : Interview with Aaron Marshall from Intervals

Paul Bradshaw

Experienced


Thought I'd make a separate post on this as I think a lot of you might be interested

I got to interview Aaron from Intervals last monday at the venue I work at (Rockhal in Luxembourg) and got to ask a lot of very nerdy / detail specific questions on the setup/tones and how things are dialed in

A huge thanks to G66 for sharing this and Aaron of course for taking the time to do this

I'll be trying to do more of these in the future, if you've got any comments or other questions to add in the mix for future Fractal Talk episodes , please let me know,

thanks 🙏
 
thanks for the feedback 🙏 it was really cool for Aaron for taking the time for this, I knew we'd get into a decent level of nerdiness, but things went real deep here :D could have kept talking for ages, was great
 
I often just use micro pitch shift post cab block or sometimes the enhancer block but inspired now to experiment more with the chorus block. Nice shout out in the interview to Leon Todd's block library for the Dimension C. Aaron really knows his Fractal inside out. Awesome interview. I'm making mental notes throughout of all his tips
 
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I often just use micro pitch shift post cab block or sometimes the enhancer block but inspired now to experiment more with the chorus block. Nice shout out in the interview to Leon Todd's block library for the Dimension C. Aaron really knows his Fractal inside out. Awesome interview. I'm making mental notes throughout of all his tips
Same, the tip at the end using monitor wedges as stage fills in lieu of a cab or something like that, super cool for small stages



Paul! This is so, so good! Great work, mate. Just nerdy enough…plus Aaron is such a good interview.
Thanks a lot 🙏 Aaron is definitely an awesome person to interview, so much knowledge on tap to share, was brilliant
 
thanks !
Yeah I've been doing that for years with Yamaha DHR12M's which are great coaxial FRFR monitors by themselves. I HIGHLY recommend them.
ah nice, i had never thought of doing that, as there's usually cabs so the power amp-> cab route has been the thing on some really small stages
but just having some stage monitors seems a lot cooler, and less to carry if this stuff is already at the venue, will see about trying this at an upcoming gig at some point
 
thanks !

ah nice, i had never thought of doing that, as there's usually cabs so the power amp-> cab route has been the thing on some really small stages
but just having some stage monitors seems a lot cooler, and less to carry if this stuff is already at the venue, will see about trying this at an upcoming gig at some point
Lots of folks here (including me) use EV PXM12Ps, also coax. If you bring something like that, you can try leaving them off to check out what the venue has. Personally though, I wouldn't want to count on house monitoring i didn't pick, don't control, and that's really set up for vocals.

How about IEMs?
 
Lots of folks here (including me) use EV PXM12Ps, also coax. If you bring something like that, you can try leaving them off to check out what the venue has. Personally though, I wouldn't want to count on house monitoring i didn't pick, don't control, and that's really set up for vocals.

How about IEMs?
we're all on IEMs in the band (i have a custom molded 3way set which has been amazing) , with a custom in ear/monitoring rack, so all our monitoring is consistent, which has made things super easy

it's i guess more to have stage volume which is more useful on those small stages/dive bars, to essentially supplement the PA, and if people are right up front they're not just hearing drums, i've been using an orange pedalbaby power amp into whatever cab might be there for now, but i think we'll give this a go next time
 
it's i guess more to have stage volume which is more useful on those small stages/dive bars, to essentially supplement the PA, and if people are right up front they're not just hearing drums, i've been using an orange pedalbaby power amp into whatever cab might be there for now, but i think we'll give this a go next time
So you need front fills not stage volume. Not sure how it’s related to venues being small, you need more of this for large venues in fact.

What our sound guy was doing was just using whatever wedges were available, putting them on the edge of the stage, turned towards the audience, and feeding a specially processed mix there after tuning and time aligning them with the PA. Since they are only supplementing the mains, they don’t need full range sound really.
 
So you need front fills not stage volume. Not sure how it’s related to venues being small, you need more of this for large venues in fact.

What our sound guy was doing was just using whatever wedges were available, putting them on the edge of the stage, turned towards the audience, and feeding a specially processed mix there after tuning and time aligning them with the PA. Since they are only supplementing the mains, they don’t need full range sound really.
ah ok thanks, that's good info

It's not always easy to gauge on the sorts of venues we're playing (50 cap/bars or 100-200 cap small venues) , i figured the smaller the venue can perhaps benefit more from more on stage reinforcement, but i guess venues of all sizes can i guess
 
i figured the smaller the venue can perhaps benefit more from more on stage reinforcement, but i guess venues of all sizes can i guess
I’d say that adding multiple sources is a bit trickier than that. The most obvious thing is that same frequencies will be reaching people from different distances and therefore with different delay times, which creates all kinds of phasing problems. When a venue is small, this is even worse because you get reflections from edge surfaces, standing waves etc. If it’s a bar it can get even more complicated because the room can have an odd shape, you may be in a corner or whatever - all the problems multiply.

So you need to know what you’re doing. Because yes, you’ll help those front rows, but will cause issues for others. In large venues, because mains are wide apart and higher up, the dead spot in front of the stage may be pretty large, too, so front fills help. But also, assuming those front fills don’t pump too much volume, their sound doesn’t interfere too much with areas further back where mains work properly.

Our sound guy was running around the room with a measurement mic on a stand and an iPad, running sweeps and all kinds of funky noises, and also listening to music in different places, with mains and those fills on a separate mixer bus, adjusting stuff on the mixing desk, until he was satisfied with sound in different spots. Sometimes he decided that fills don’t work and didn’t use them. It’s always a compromise and a balancing act.

It took him maybe 5-10 minutes before the sound check, but if I did it I’d probably spend weeks lol - I only understand in principle what to look for but never did it myself.
 
I’d say that adding multiple sources is a bit trickier than that. The most obvious thing is that same frequencies will be reaching people from different distances and therefore with different delay times, which creates all kinds of phasing problems. When a venue is small, this is even worse because you get reflections from edge surfaces, standing waves etc. If it’s a bar it can get even more complicated because the room can have an odd shape, you may be in a corner or whatever - all the problems multiply.

So you need to know what you’re doing. Because yes, you’ll help those front rows, but will cause issues for others. In large venues, because mains are wide apart and higher up, the dead spot in front of the stage may be pretty large, too, so front fills help. But also, assuming those front fills don’t pump too much volume, their sound doesn’t interfere too much with areas further back where mains work properly.

Our sound guy was running around the room with a measurement mic on a stand and an iPad, running sweeps and all kinds of funky noises, and also listening to music in different places, with mains and those fills on a separate mixer bus, adjusting stuff on the mixing desk, until he was satisfied with sound in different spots. Sometimes he decided that fills don’t work and didn’t use them. It’s always a compromise and a balancing act.

It took him maybe 5-10 minutes before the sound check, but if I did it I’d probably spend weeks lol - I only understand in principle what to look for but never did it myself.
definitely sounds tricky, somewhat reminds me of when I was doing measurements in my room with a mic for REW / EQ correction, i spent i think 2-3 hours just moving stuff around and doing measurements, took forever i think if i also got into that in concert / venue rooms, i wouldn't be able to sleep lol
 
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