FM9 Firmware Version 11.0

Goonie said:
I'm probably not alone saying that I'd take further enhancements if that meant losing user cab space. 512 is still a lot. Hell, 128 is plenty.
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Agreed. Given DynaCab mic placement, 512 = 654,766,254 actual choices. Double that if you take into consideration two speakers per cab. I dare someone to ask me for the supporting math.
 
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Goonie said:
I'm probably not alone saying that I'd take further enhancements if that meant losing user cab space. 512 is still a lot. Hell, 128 is plenty.
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Yeah, I'm inclined to agree. I have soooooo many user cabs, and I've hardly used the avalable space still. And I alway seem to be using the same IRs anyway.
 
Is the speculation on this (or maybe not so much speculation if I missed something) that User Cab space is being utilized to enhance the amp modeling? Or is this just to fit more Dyna Cabs?
 
Thenewexhibit said:
Is the speculation on this (or maybe not so much speculation if I missed something) that User Cab space is being utilized to enhance the amp modeling? Or is this just to fit more Dyna Cabs?
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The latter - from the release notes:
“IMPORTANT: This update adds new Dyna-Cab™ models to the FM3, bringing it in sync with the Axe-Fx III and FM9. To make room for these, the number of User Cab slots has been reduced from 1024 to 512. If you have any User Cabs stored in slots 513–1024, please back them up using FM3-Edit. Those slots will be removed, and any cabs in them will be permanently lost after the update.”
 
Guys, I finally downloaded (FW 11) last week and I did not like it. In a way, it sounds like it killed all of my tones. It's almost like a blanket covered over my speakers. All of my GAINs went from 10 to 5. If you try to increase Gain and/or Overdrive, it would immediately gets into "flubby" world. 2nd, I also noticed, the tones on the high frequencies (800 hz - 1.5khz) are gone (or at least, went down a lot). I thought that my daughter was playing around with my cables...and I even tried using a few other good cables and they still sounded bad. I had to reinstalled FW 11 three times and nothing changed. At the last resort, I had to reset everything back to Factory Manufacturer presets. From there, I had to reinstall back to FW 10. With my experience, FW 11 screwed up my tones. I don't know if anyone else have any issues, but I did not like it. I'm staying with Firmware 10 right now. At least I know, my FW 10 sounds fantastic. Can someone else confirm this? Or is it just me?
 
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Guys, I finally downloaded (FW 11) last week and I did not like it. In a way, it sounds like it killed all of my tones. It's almost like a blanket covered over my speakers. All of my GAINs went from 10 to 5. If you try to increase Gain and/or Overdrive, it would immediately gets into "flubby" world. 2nd, I also noticed, the tones on the high frequencies (800 hz - 1.5khz) are gone (or at least, went down a lot). I thought that my daughter was playing around with my cables...and I even tried using a few other good cables and they still sounded bad. I had to reinstalled FW 11 three times and nothing changed. At the last resort, I had to reset everything back to Factory Manufacturer presets. From there, I had to reinstall back to FW 10. With my experience, FW 11 screwed up my tones. I don't know if anyone else have any issues, but I did not like it. I'm staying with Firmware 10 right now. At least I know, my FW 10 sounds fantastic. Can someone else confirm this? Or is it just me?
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Firmware updates rarely change ANY setting in presets, and those are typically only advanced settings.

It definitely did not change the gain related settings.

Perhaps the global Power Amp or Cab modeling settings got disabled? Resetting factory settings would turn them back on.
 
unix-guy said:
Firmware updates rarely change ANY setting in presets, and those are typically only advanced settings.

It definitely did not change the gain related settings.

Perhaps the global Power Amp or Cab modeling settings got disabled? Resetting factory settings would turn them back on.
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Yeah....I don't believe it should change, as well, but they changed mine (installed 3 times). I browsed and played a few common Presets (JCM 800, JVM, Mk IV / IIC+, etc.), they are no longer the ones I created or used from the Presets. Hmmmm....thanks confirming this. Whatever it happened (3x), I think I'm going to wait for the next FW. And no....nothing in the Global section and all cab modeling setting had not changed anything. The only changed was the sound/tone itself. It's very weird. I'm very particular about my sound in the GAIN and OVERDRIVE section if something changed -which it did for me. However, can't afford going be "MIA" again when I needed. Lol. Thanks confirming this, guys.
 
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Jim Amsden said:
Did you check the input impedance? Maybe something changed that?
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No, I didn't checked the impedance though. I don't believe the impedance would change the sound/tone overall, right? - unless I or FW 11 did it (which I don't believe that's the case). Lol. My first question was my 2 years old daughter; she's probably the culprit, but then I realized, my FM9 is not available to sit around for her (or anyone) to play. It's locked and inside in a wired-cage. So when I updated FW 11, I did not tested anything until the next day. This is how I found out, the sound's different. Don't get me wrong, it still sounds decently'ish, BUT I do know the small things in the sound/tones in the "Gain and Overdrive" sections, and they definitely changed my tones for sure. Whatever it did, it changed my tones enough to be annoyed. However, I already reset my FM9 back to the factory though. Now I'm back to FW 10. Thanks asking. I appreciated.
 
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Goonie said:
I'm probably not alone saying that I'd take further enhancements if that meant losing user cab space. 512 is still a lot. Hell, 128 is plenty.
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I assume this only affects the FM3, as the release notes indicate it is bringing the FM3 inline with current FM9/AFX3 code.

But it does beg an interesting question; how long before something lie this does affect us?

While I pretty much only use greenback IRs, I do have literally hundreds of them. And, no, I don't keep tack of which cabs I'm using whenever I build a preset.

I recently did some house-keeping on my presets, literally clearing out hundreds of unused presets. I would very much like to do the same for my user cabs.

Is there a utility that can scan my FM9, and export a list of user cabs and their associated presets?

I'd like to start migrating everything to the dynacabs anyway, but it'd be a huge head start if I could figure out which user cabs could be deleted right now :)
 
Nice! I will have to take a look at that. I figured it was just for converting presets between different devices. If it works, it'll be my new best friend :)
 
GMGM said:
Nice! I will have to take a look at that. I figured it was just for converting presets between different devices. If it works, it'll be my new best friend :)
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If you don't have too many presets (and even if you do) you might want to take the time and do this one by one. I tried about a month ago pulling the lists for both FM3 and FM9 and results weren't entirely accurate. Lists showed for example some factory presets I have never touched as using IRs in User slots. I fear the opposite could also happen where you have a preset using IR in user slot and not showing on Fractool generated list.
 
Sergius9 said:
If you don't have too many presets (and even if you do) you might want to take the time and do this one by one. I tried about a month ago pulling the lists for both FM3 and FM9 and results weren't entirely accurate. Lists showed for example some factory presets I have never touched as using IRs in User slots. I fear the opposite could also happen where you have a preset using IR in user slot and not showing on Fractool generated list.
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Thanks for the advice. I was worried about all the extra cabs I have loaded into each of the 4 channels in the CAB block. I also toggle back and forth between at least a couple cabs when building presets. But by the time I'm finished, I am only ever using one IR.

I'll have a look and proceed cautiously. I'm half tempted to just burn it all to the ground and start from scratch, haha. But it certainly DOES feel good to do so much needed spring cleaning on my FM9 presets and IRs.
 
boardwlk17 said:
Anybody getting crackling across a lot of presets, like when you're holding a cord out, you hear crackling and the background.
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If you’re using the noise gate in the Input Block, check it to make sure it’s not causing chattering. Turn it all the way off, counterclockwise, and see if it stops.
 
Darrin66 said:
If you’re using the noise gate in the Input Block, check it to make sure it’s not causing chattering. Turn it all the way off, counterclockwise, and see if it stops.
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Also, if you have a compressor, turn it off to see if it stops. Check the input and output leds/meters for clipping. Does anything of all these things help in any way?
 
At the risk of being burned at the stake on here for being a heretic-To me given the current limits of the FM9's CPU, we apparently have arrived at a place where the unit's processor is being pushed to its limits for most of us. Why not just refine to a consolidated and robust firmware version and back off on all the unnecessary minutia. The FM9 sounded great when it came out and will continue to sound just fine if its current processor limitations are managed and harnessed accordingly. I'm pretty sure there won't be a FW 15 of any consequence unless factory processor re-fit / upgrades could be made or until the next FM10 comes out.
Why not just set the unit up to so that the user can pick say 100 amps and 100 Dyna Cabs (whatever realistic number of each is to help minimize CPU usage) and be done with it?...Configure the unit ala carte so that the user decides where the processor muscle is applied. How many amps and cabs do you really need (or use) anyway? The firmware could then continue to be significantly updated without degradation to the necessary functions and utility that many are experiencing.
Just a thought.
 
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