Flattening the headrush curve

Just applied the global PEQ settings on my two 108s and I'm impressed man! Thank you! The boominess was the big thing I was frustrated with, especially playing my passive guitars. My active kinda pushed through the boominess in a way my passives just didn't. But honestly, the hate on these monitors is a little ridiculous. Yes the Fractal is an incredible unit. Yes the HR units are budget and definitely not that great. But I'm also not a performing musician. I'm a hair stylist with a hobby that I love and I'm not nit picking my monitors every time I play. To me, just having a pedal that has every amp under the sun, every cab, every pedal, is incredible. I've never even played through a real deal 6505 other than a combo I had a very short amount of time. Otherwise, this has been the next best option. And given the Fractal wasn't cheap by any means, the last thing I could afford after being it was super expensive monitors. Maybe to hardcore audiophiles sure, skip them. But for a hobbyist who just wants to play loud and sound cool, the HR 108s have been great for me
 
Hey, there WK Smith, I run 2 headrush frfr112's. I used your parametric eq settings for the frfr108 and it does help on certain amps/patches. I thank you for your time putting that together. Any chance on getting one made for the 112's? It would be greatly appreciated!
 
HI @WKSmith just wanted to thank you for putting the time into setting the eq curve for the Headrush. I have been lucky over the years to own and gig a few nice amps and i still have them, A Marshall 6100lm, an Engl E670, and a Marshall JCM 900. I got the FM9 a couple of weeks ago and i bought a Headrush 108 to monitor the sound live with the intention of going to FOH, i must say i was quite disappointed in the sound, it was really wooly and bass heavy i tried loads of the cab irs and Dynacab but it still sounded bad. I stumbled across this post while browsing the forum looking as to why the Fractal FM9 (yes i was blaming the fractal) was so bass heavy, so i tried your settings and its now sounding so much better, i cant believe as others have mentioned that speakers that are supposed to be FRFR are so way off the mark. I dont know what expensive FRFRs will sound like compared to the EQed Headrush but i think they sound pretty good now. Thanks
 
There used to be an old guide line in Hi Fi separates that you should spend twice as much on the speakers that you spent on the amp.
Whilst this is not exactly the same it should say that you are wasting a huge amount of potential by using budget junk amp and speakers with flagship signal. Would you really buy an SLO and plug it in to a generic 8" Chinese speaker in a partial board box??? You would be missing considerably more than a bit of EQing.
 
Andy Eagle said:
There used to be an old guide line in Hi Fi separates that you should spend twice as much on the speakers that you spent on the amp.
Whilst this is not exactly the same it should say that you are wasting a huge amount of potential by using budget junk amp and speakers with flagship signal. Would you really buy an SLO and plug it in to a generic 8" Chinese speaker in a partial board box??? You would be missing considerably more than a bit of EQing.
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I have read through this entire thread and get that you don't like the headrush. lol. When I bought my axe3 I knew nothing about modeling and the area where I live the choices are very limited as to what you can find on hand. Guy at the music store suggested the headrush 112's so I got two of them. I have never heard my axe3 through anything else. I only play at home. Use my computer to play to backing tracks through the afx3. I'm not really interested in getting studio monitors. I have the 112's on stands and have toyed with the idea of playing a small show for friends and family with this set up. I like the fact that I can move some air with the 12's. Would be curious what you and others might suggest as a better alternative. Would like to stay with the PA speaker type setup. Not floor monitors. Thanks in advance.
 
jlm5150 said:
. Would like to stay with the PA speaker type setup. Not floor monitors. Thanks in advance.
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I use to have 2x 108's. This flattening curve helped me alot, but eventually sold them for 2x marshall 2x12 (1922) cabs and a Palmer Macht Solid State PowerAmp. Couldnt be more happier with the sound. Even with CAB modeling enabled it sounds fantastic like on my headphones (AudioTechnica ATH-M50x).
 
Axelman8 said:
I use to have 2x 108's. This flattening curve helped me alot, but eventually sold them for 2x marshall 2x12 (1922) cabs and a Palmer Macht Solid State PowerAmp. Couldnt be more happier with the sound. Even with CAB modeling enabled it sounds fantastic like on my headphones (AudioTechnica ATH-M50x).
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I would try the flattening thing, but as has been stated so many times through this thread, it's for the 108's.
 
@WKSmith , sorry if you answered this already, but do you still happen to have the measurement files?

I started off translating the EQ settings to the HX Stomp (only three bands of PEQ, by the way), but then applied them in Windows too, with Equalizer APO. The 108s sound a lot better already. However, I wanted to get even nerdier in Windows by leveraging your measurements.
 
jlm5150 said:
I have read through this entire thread and get that you don't like the headrush. lol. When I bought my axe3 I knew nothing about modeling and the area where I live the choices are very limited as to what you can find on hand. Guy at the music store suggested the headrush 112's so I got two of them. I have never heard my axe3 through anything else. I only play at home. Use my computer to play to backing tracks through the afx3. I'm not really interested in getting studio monitors. I have the 112's on stands and have toyed with the idea of playing a small show for friends and family with this set up. I like the fact that I can move some air with the 12's. Would be curious what you and others might suggest as a better alternative. Would like to stay with the PA speaker type setup. Not floor monitors. Thanks in advance.
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It depends on expectations. The one relatively cheap and easy to get FRFR I think is ok is the Laney 2x12 but even the 1x12 is a lot more like the experience you get from guitar cabs. I don’t think you can get an amp experience without cabs on the floor.
 
jamiejackson said:
@WKSmith , sorry if you answered this already, but do you still happen to have the measurement files?

I started off translating the EQ settings to the HX Stomp (only three bands of PEQ, by the way), but then applied them in Windows too, with Equalizer APO. The 108s sound a lot better already. However, I wanted to get even nerdier in Windows by leveraging your measurements.
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I don't have any charts or measurements outside of the ones from this thread.
 
Fwiw I was using two 108s for nearly 3 years with this EQ curve and had zero complaints. After I upgraded to the Powercab 212 they went under the desk until I just recently set them back up as like a 4 speaker surround kinda setup but unfortunately there isn't really a way for me to set the EQ curve just for the 108s since I'm running all 3 at the same time. There's ways but none I can think of that won't sacrifice my FX loop. Right now it's FM3 outs 1/2 to Powercab 212, then Powercab outs 1/2 to HR 108 L/R, so the 108s are just playing what's coming out of the Powercab. Only thing I can think of is if there's a way to do an EQ on the Powercab outs only. I generally like how the Powercab sounds, it just really gets muddled with the 108s going at the same time. Any ideas? Thoughts? I have an interface too but I've generally just been using the FM3 as my interface with no complaints (I never got that latency everyone talks about being such an issue, dunno why) so that's another option I could use for outs and just monitor from the DAW but less appealing.
 
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