FCB1010 how to make 1 stomp footswitch momentary

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nickxmix

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I have stomp box mode set up on the top row and I just want the ability to bring in the pitch block for a small part of a solo.
My question how do I program that 1 switch in my case no.10 for that function.
Thanks nickxmix
 
Unfortunately there's no momentary action available on the FCB1010, with or without mod.

My suggestion would be to use one of the expression pedals to control the bypass state of the block instead - toe down for on, toe up for off. Much easier and (physically) more stable than quickly double tapping a button.
 
in the fcb 1010 all the switches actually are momentary, but the way the programing is there is not any way that I am aware of to make it function that way. as Grit stated use a exp connected to a modifier, or use a keyboard sustain pedal plugged into the pedal jack in the back of the axe. I like to use the sustain pedal even with the mfc, it is low to the floor so you can leave weight on your heel wile using. they are also cheap to buy.
 
Are you using the Uno chip? Stomps can be momentary then. From the user guide:

CC “MOMENTARY” TOGGLING
A special case of “momentary toggling’ is implemented: in this mode, a CC message
with programmed value is sent when clicking a footswitch, and the same CC message,
this time with value 0, is sent when releasing the footswitch. This mode is enabled in a
very specific way: by setting the alternate CC value to 1 and disabling the CC toggling.
 
Wow, Bakerman I stand corrected, completely forgot about that! Somehow I got it stuck in my head that the Uno couldn't do that... I think I may have been confusing it with the fact that it can't respond to more than one simultaneous button press.

Apologies for the disinformation nick :)
 
Hi Bakerman, does that mean with the UNO chip I program in my case:
S10 with CNT1 value cc77(for pitch) ,then put a "1" where you would normally have 127, then a value of "0" in CNT2?
I'm using ripwerks: could you send me a coded jpg.
Thanks nickxmix
 
It would be configured via CNT1 parameters only. Untick the box and change the next field (likely 0 now) to 1.
 
Hi all, hi Bakerman,

I found the same hint "set alternate CC value of Cnt1 to 1 and disable toggle" in the UnO 1.0.4 user guide.
But it's not working as expected. Only toggling buttons work, as I set them.

My FCB1010 is set like "skintone1", but without stompbox mode; there are only 10 PC numbers.
Bank 00 is the "Looper"-Bank in my setup. Here is what some buttons do:

Button 1 = Rec on/off (this works: on press = on, next press = off)
Button 2 = stack - I tried to set this as a momentary button, but the Midi Monitor shows no "0" when I release the button = > I can't stop recording/dubbing….
Button 3 = "Once" - strangly it toggles "Once" on/off, although I set it only to one value (127).
Button 9 = Volume3-Block bypass, this was meant as a momentary button for a volume booster (while Button pressed = Volume3-Block on = louder for amp, solo…)

ripwerx-Bank00.jpg
The toggling buttons work well, but
I attach my FCB1010 UnO sysex file (ripwerx 2.1) and here is a part of the Midi monitoring.

Maybe someone who uses not so much presets finds it interesting, but maybe someone can show me, how to set it up right or try it on his FCB?.
Thanx!


Midi Monitor:
Bank 00 Button 1 (pressed 5 times):
CC - Cont: 028, Val: 127 on MIDI channel 01 (0xb0 0x1c 0x7f)
CC - Cont: 028, Val: 000 on MIDI channel 01 (0xb0 0x1c 0x00)
CC - Cont: 028, Val: 127 on MIDI channel 01 (0xb0 0x1c 0x7f)
CC - Cont: 028, Val: 000 on MIDI channel 01 (0xb0 0x1c 0x00)
CC - Cont: 028, Val: 127 on MIDI channel 01 (0xb0 0x1c 0x7f)

Bank 00 Button 2 (pressed 5 times): was meant as a momentary button (i.e. dub only while depresed)
CC - Cont: 031, Val: 127 on MIDI channel 01 (0xb0 0x1f 0x7f)
CC - Cont: 031, Val: 127 on MIDI channel 01 (0xb0 0x1f 0x7f)
CC - Cont: 031, Val: 127 on MIDI channel 01 (0xb0 0x1f 0x7f)
CC - Cont: 031, Val: 127 on MIDI channel 01 (0xb0 0x1f 0x7f)
CC - Cont: 031, Val: 127 on MIDI channel 01 (0xb0 0x1f 0x7f)


Bank 00 Button 3 (pressed 5 times): programmed to only send "on", but the Axe-Fii toggles Looper "Once" on/off
CC - Cont: 030, Val: 127 on MIDI channel 01 (0xb0 0x1e 0x7f)
CC - Cont: 030, Val: 127 on MIDI channel 01 (0xb0 0x1e 0x7f)
CC - Cont: 030, Val: 127 on MIDI channel 01 (0xb0 0x1e 0x7f)
CC - Cont: 030, Val: 127 on MIDI channel 01 (0xb0 0x1e 0x7f)
CC - Cont: 030, Val: 127 on MIDI channel 01 (0xb0 0x1e 0x7f)

Bank 00 Button 9 (pressed 5 times): "Boost" volume3 - Block 3 momentary on, but only sends on, on, on…, no value "0" when releasing the button
CC - Cont: 095, Val: 127 on MIDI channel 01 (0xb0 0x5f 0x7f)
CC - Cont: 095, Val: 127 on MIDI channel 01 (0xb0 0x5f 0x7f)
CC - Cont: 095, Val: 127 on MIDI channel 01 (0xb0 0x5f 0x7f)
CC - Cont: 095, Val: 127 on MIDI channel 01 (0xb0 0x5f 0x7f)
CC - Cont: 095, Val: 127 on MIDI channel 01 (0xb0 0x5f 0x7f)
 

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  • Axe-all scenes 1+10=PC, 9Boost,10Tap, Bank00=Looper.syx
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I think you can configure a switch to use the "note" setting, but you'll need to translate the note on and note off to CCs. I use MidiFire for translation of all my midi messages that need it.
 
So for all that are still struggling with this, as i was up until 10 minutes ago, here what 100% no doubt, all the time works for me in using the fcb1010 to turn on/off effects with one click. Your results may vary based on equipment and equipment capability. I use the fcb1010 in conjunction with a Boss RC600 loop system, primarily to tun on/off wffects and increase/decrease certain parameters. When you program the fcb to send messages that the boss interprets as a effect change, bank increase etc(not a scene/memory change), the manual and others suggest programming the actual pedal(1-10) to have 2 values (127 and 0). The key is to only program 127. Normally this wouldnt work. HOWEVER, if you set your effect or action to be controlled on the device(in my case the RC600 “Bank A effects increase”) to momentary, you should be rewarded with success. One press equals incease. Also have it set to “record current track”. Works now with one press. Hope this helps someone in setting up their gear. Definitely, the craziest, unintuitive piece of gear I own, outside of The boss rc600 itself
 
Darrell.green007 said:
So for all that are still struggling with this, as i was up until 10 minutes ago, here what 100% no doubt, all the time works for me in using the fcb1010 to turn on/off effects with one click. Your results may vary based on equipment and equipment capability. I use the fcb1010 in conjunction with a Boss RC600 loop system, primarily to tun on/off wffects and increase/decrease certain parameters. When you program the fcb to send messages that the boss interprets as a effect change, bank increase etc(not a scene/memory change), the manual and others suggest programming the actual pedal(1-10) to have 2 values (127 and 0). The key is to only program 127. Normally this wouldnt work. HOWEVER, if you set your effect or action to be controlled on the device(in my case the RC600 “Bank A effects increase”) to momentary, you should be rewarded with success. One press equals incease. Also have it set to “record current track”. Works now with one press. Hope this helps someone in setting up their gear. Definitely, the craziest, unintuitive piece of gear I own, outside of The boss rc600 itself
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Standard behavior for midi IAs is to send 0 for OFF and 127 for ON.

Most devices expect this behavior. The Fractal products do have a global Toggle setting that would allow this to work.

I'm not sure what you mean by "momentary" in this case, as midi CCs aren't stateful.
 
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