jimmynorrisjr
Experienced
I agree. If you are only using amps that work well with the one cab, it would be fine I imagine. I use different cabs with different amps, though. FRFR works "better" for me. Whatever works!
I agree. If you are only using amps that work well with the one cab, it would be fine I imagine. I use different cabs with different amps, though. FRFR works "better" for me. Whatever works!
I have done a couple with the cheap headrush 12s in stereo. They are "2000 watts" (yeah right). I have never turned them all the way up. It would be insanely loud. I can beat most FOH with these, if I needed to be redidulous. The fidelity is not top notch, however. I am ordering a stereo pair of these Elis 8s. I will post some helpful info as soon as I can get some quality gig time in them.
Hey J, seen you rip on the Journey stuff very well on vids . Bouncing from CLR's to 4x 12 w EVM's lately. Learning lessons and a never ending quest for nirvana for bigger live shows, Fractal is a dependable and reproduceable tool. Keep rockin brother!! If you decide on FRFR, CLR are the best IMO. I will still use them, and buying another pair when Tom says avail!!! I cant quite afford or justify Meyer.. someday!!
I think I am going to go FRFR, I am considering the Elis8. I've been doing some research to try and understand how best to use FRFR, etc... I watched your video on how to use an FRFR with a digital modeler (I will post the video below for anyone interested, it is very informative.) I do not understand one thing from your video. You mentioned not to high cut around 1:06:01 into the video. I always understood that a guitar cab and speaker is tuned to filter out frequencies above around 5-6KHz and we should usually look to cut freqs that are too high. If you or anyone else knowledgeable would please further explain this, I think this is important to get the best possible tones from FRFR.
How will it work? You put your FRFR behind you pointing at the audience and turn up the volume. I’ve done it many times.
Right, I've had to learn a lot about sound engineering since I went digital modeling last year. But to be clear, if we are going FoH, it is best to not high cut because the sound engineer will handle that? But if we are only playing through our frfr, we should cut high frequencies above what a guitar speaker would put out? Thanks for your time on this as I really want to get this correct.
Well, good question.
I don't really understand this. I'm no audio engineer or producer but isn't it very common for those folks to apply high and low cuts (and various other EQ) to guitar tracks when tracking/mixing to ensure they sit better in the mix?
with digital modeler you can shape your tone like audio engineer, just cutting low and high freq, but, how to do it it is a matter of audio professional knowledge.
You made excellent sense. And the CD to stereo analogy is good.
I only adjust the Amp block's EQ in the preset, like I would with my tube amp, then I leave the Cab block pretty much alone after I find the IR I like. I adjust the global EQ for my Out 1 which goes to my EVs if they're reacting with the stage and causing rumble by cutting somewhere below 100 Hz.
Sine. After I have my rig set up, I'll run it, turn up the modeler to what I think is a reasonable stage volume, then sweep the Synth's frequency looking for sympathetic vibrations. If something starts rattling I cut that area with the global PEQ. My FOH feed is not EQ'd at all, I figure that's the FOH engineer's problem.
A guitar amp speaker is part of the guitar sound and it is a non linear component.
I couldn't find the stereo pair anywhere. I did get the active Elis.8. I will just wait until the passive side is available again. Thanks for the info!
My Elis8 Stereo bundle just arrived yesterday! Thanks for the recommendation, @Marco Fanton !
A bit, but maybe not dramatically. The room might do something with these frequencies, however. Personally, I find some rooms I want a bit more of these. Some rooms not so much. I "usually" set the high cut between 6k-7k. I have an IR I created using some compression, parametric EQ, and a Boss AC-3 for a pretend acoustic sound. It is very useful. I set the high cut for that around 11K. Never know when you might need more or less.