Das Metal / Recto New Clip

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gwertman

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Hi all,
I thought I'd toss a clip in here too. It's quad tracked (of course) using slightly different EQed dual amp patches using the Das Metal and Recto New and Recto Orange amps that I'll uplaod if anyone is interested. The drums are Addictive Drums and the bass is an Ibanez soundgear. It's mastered with iZotope Ozone 3, recorded in Sonar 8 on an XP 64 bit sytem with a Presonus Firebox via 1/4 inch cables. The mp3 is 320kb lame encoded. Enjoy!

http://dfl.airsyndicate.net/storage/superchunky.mp3
 
Each amp feeds into a stereo cab. Each amp is then hard panned and each side of the cab is too. Worked really well. God Bless Fractal!
 
gwertman said:
using slightly different EQed dual amp patches using the Das Metal and Recto New and Recto Orange amps that I'll uplaod if anyone is interested.
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This sounds great!!!! :eek:

So yes, I would be interested :mrgreen:
 
I'm a d*rk... I spent today doing everything but playing guitar or messing with presets. The NIN show rocked by the way. Presets are comin... hang in there! \m/
 
That sounds really, really great. Not usually what I expect a recto to sound like but that's besides the point because this is fantastic sounding!
Did you use any custom IR's (if so, which)?

Oh yeah, Patch Please :D
 
No custom IRs, and very little tweaking was done to the amps. Alot of how this sounds is the effect of quad tracking and a good mastering plugin on the mix. I need to figure out how to use that Multi-band compressor in the Axe for more direct punch.

Glad you like it!! Oh, the Bill Lawrence L500XL I have in the bridge and a fierce pick attack also helps! ;)
 
Tada!
First off, thank you so much for listening to this stuff! :)

Secondly, the clip I originally posted was a test to see how my Axe-Fx Ultra would sit in a mix and of course had post production because, well, that's what you'd want on a recording made to hopefully impress people! So in the pursuit of fairness (and to help those folks who might want to know what these patches sound like without the post production) each patch has a sample clip with no post anything. I forgot to turn off the medium room on the wide patch but the narrow patch has no delay or verb. Also, the wide patch uses a stereo enhancer. Wave files also mean no compression so what you're hearing is only compromised by the AD converters on my Firebox which admittedly aren't the best in the world. :">

Original post mp3 http://dfl.airsyndicate.net/storage/superchunky.mp3

Brutal narrow patch (Das Metal/Recto Red) http://dfl.airsyndicate.net/storage/brutal_narrow.syx
Audio sample: http://dfl.airsyndicate.net/storage/axe-brutal_narrow.wav

Brutal wide patch (Das Metal/Recto New) http://dfl.airsyndicate.net/storage/brutal_wide.syx
Audio sample: http://dfl.airsyndicate.net/storage/axe-brutal_wide.wav

There's a drive pedal in front of each amp and the CPU usage is pretty high on these patches. I don't know if the Axe Standard can cope with them. You could always streamline then I suppose...

\m/ Enjoy! \m/

-Gary
 
Hi Gary,

Nice work!

When you were quad tracking this, what was your method for laying the tracks in?

IOW, did you record two passes each of the wide patch and two of the narrow patch?

If so, how did you pan each take? It looks like you are keeping your Axe-Fx patches in stereo, so are you leaving them in stereo after you record and just setting the narrow patch a little less wide in the stereo field (70-85% L&R) and leaving the wide patch at full spread (100% L&R). Or, did you sum each take into mono in your DAW and pan one take left and one take right for both the narrow and the wide patch?

Also, are you leaving the narrow passes dry and using some reverb on the wide passes?

Any other tricks/tips you might be willing to share?

Cheers,
-Matt
 
I just opened up my Sonar session. I actually have 6 freakin' guitars in here!! And apparently I used the stock preset 304 'beef' for 2 passes. Drunken' tracking, lol...

It went something like this...

Tracked the main idea with the stock 304 patch in mono, panned it 100% right.
Tracked the main idea again with the brutal narrow patch summed mono (why I did that I have noooo idea as it's a stereo patch) and panned it 100% left.
Messed with some drum beats, found them good, moved on...
Then I realized that the melodic bridge needed a rhythm so I punched in at around 27 seconds in (and back out at :42 or so) and played some chugga chugga chords with the stock 304 patch and again with the brutal narrow patch using the same panning settings as above for consistency.

Then I thought, ok, gimme some more! So I tracked another pass of the original idea (riffing/melodic bridge/riffing/ending) using brutal wide, left it stereo and centered. Then I tracked it again but during the melodic sections subsitituted a chugging rhythm to match the punched in chugging rhythms :)27 to :42) and again left it in stereo, center panned.

Then I added a compressed bass track (using a clean patch on the Axe of some sort and my soundgear) and ran everything (including the drums) through the mastering compressor on the main bus. That plugin added a loudness maximizer, a multiband harmonic exciter, multiband dynamics and some stereo imaging.

Man, that's Superchunky! \m/(^.^)\m/
 
Zen Guitar said:
Also, are you leaving the narrow passes dry and using some reverb on the wide passes?

Any other tricks/tips you might be willing to share?

Cheers,
-Matt
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Oh, I forgot to address this. I have a lightly mixed medium room verb in the brutal narrow and wide patches. During tracking I killed the verb on the narrow patch and left it on in the wide patch. I also killed the delay in patch 304 when I tracked this but left the verb on I think. Soloing that track exposes a bit of a trail...

Does that all make sense? :)
 
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