Axe-Fx III Automation and Ableton

papajuice

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So after watching the new Fractal Friday with Cooper And Lincoln Park today. My curiosity has been peaked. We run tracks at Church and I have Abelton on my Mac. I was wondering if anyone has any links to help explain and set up some things like they were using.
 
It's all MIDI commands send from the DAW.

MIDI PC (Program Change) messages will let you change presets. The value ranges from 0 to 127. To access presets higher than 127 you have to change banks first using CC#0.

CC (Continuous Controller) messages will let you change other things. CC messages have two parts: the CC number and its value. Both range from 0 to 127. The CC# is sort of like which parameter and the value is what you want to set that parameter to. Dig through the setup > MIDI/Remote menu to see all of the things you can assign to various CC messages. You can use any CC# except CC#0. That one is reserved for Bank select when changing presets. If you assign the same CC# to more than one thing, those will be controlled by the same CC# messages.

Real time parameter control can be done via the External Controllers. There are 16 available in the MIDI/Remote menu that you can assign CC messages. You can then assign those External Controllers as sources in your Axe III modifiers.

There's MIDI Reference tables at the back of the Axe III manual that show the various values to select specific presets, scenes, and channels.
 
Real time parameter control can be done via the External Controllers. There are 16 available in the MIDI/Remote menu that you can assign CC messages.
Can’t you also assign MIDI CCs to block Bypass states directly without relying on controllers?

So if you want to automate, say a Wah or a Whammy, External Controllers are the way to go, for individual blocks bypass or for scene changes a more direct method may be better.

There are a couple things that make External Controllers not as useful as they could be. The first is that as soon as you assign a parameter to an EC, you can’t control it manually anymore, which is a bummer. The second is that you can’t record your actions in a DAW, so programming all this can be quite tedious. As a matter of fact, in Ableton specifically it’s the most tedious because you have to literally draw curves (unless something changed in the latest version). When I used Ableton for automation I created automation tracks in other DAWs where you can directly type stuff in, and then imported resulting MIDI clips into Ableton. At some point I set up a Maschine Jam controller to write this automation, which made the process more or less tolerable, otherwise for anything not as simple as switching scenes a few times during a song it’s all quite a pain in the neck to do.

There’s also a possibility to do looper control with CCs, albeit the way it is done in current generation is just plain bad (ie there’s no way to Play or Stop, this is a toggle, so what happens when a CC value changes depends on previous state, not on the value itself, which can mess things up in a big way, depending on how the looper is used).
 
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