A few VP4 feature requests

Bob G

Inspired
1. Add > Option in the VP4 output section to send signal from the output of last effects block back into the input of the VP4 using an aux send control fader knob.

2. Add > Dual Mono (Stereo) IR loader

3. Add > Positioning the global EQ at the input stage of the signal chain to fine-tune the tone of incoming instrument signals before exaggerating insufferable midrange overtones with long reverbs and delays with long delay times and feedback.

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I use the effects loop blocks in my Axe-Fx units in creative ways without actually patching anything into the physical I/O of the unit's stereo FX Loop.

I like to create chains of ambient effects and then feed a controlled amount of the output of the last effect block back into the input of the first. Having control over the amount of feedback and putting low pass and high pass filters in between the send and return can create some really cool effects. Been doing this for ages with Axe-Fx units and would like to be able to do the same with VP4.

This functionality can enable the creation of amazing, wild, inspiring and innovative effects like the Recycle Knob control in the Soundtoys Effects Rack plugin, and like the complex reverb/delay network of the Strymon Night Sky pedal algorithms.

Having a dual Cab IR loader in stereo inside of the VP4 is a no-brainer.

The most practical use for having a stereo IR loader block is in creating an optimal signal chain for your VP4 and 3rd party amp pedals.

Starting out your signal chain with a single amp pedal like the Friedman IR-X or ToneX, with the internal IR in those pedals bypassed, so you're just getting the sound of preamp/power amp sections of the total amplifier sound; then coming out of your single amp pedal into the stereo VP4 effects, then sending the whole thing into a left / right pair of "cabinets" using the proposed [Dual IR Block] at the end of the VP4 effects chain. Essentially this would give you the sound of having your stereo VP4 effects patched into two amplifier effects loops (two amplifiers of the same type/sound), and then coming out of the stereo effects loop into left/right cabinets.

It's a huge and glorious stereo sound. An alternative but ideal way to setup the VP4 with a 3rd party amp-in-a-pedal like the Friedman IR series for a fully stereo rig feeding the speakers with your stereo effects.

You can also turn the IR on in your amp pedal and have the effects running post amp, but many creative musicians prefer the sound of the effects going through the guitar speakers because the guitar speakers have a way of fusing the effects and the dry guitar tone together more into a very characterized and encapsulated guitar sound that finds its place in the mix more specifically.

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Thanks for reading
@FractalAudio

I'm loving VP4 so far. Haven't had a single technical issue even on original firmware. I decided to use provided power adapter and glad I did.

Thank you to everyone at Fractal Audio who built my VP4 with care. The cost of VP4 is more than fair and comes with the satisfaction of buying from a company that supports workers in their own country. The VP4 I received is of superior build quality.
 
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Maybe it’s there but I can’t find it, would love the ability to assign footswtich 2 on the tuner to something. My preference would be gig mode or custom via footswitch. Or even metronome on/off.
 
I am for a multiband compressor
Don't know if the CPU power is sufficient for this, but in the Axe-Fx III it's half of the CPU of a drive block.
 
ADD Request: Naming ability for channels in effects mode. In a gain block with four gain options, I would love the ability to name or add to effect names. Instead of TS808 OD - I would like to make it and save it "Low Gain TS" or "TS HOT" This would allow me to toggle faster through effects in one block. It could also be Stereo Mind Guy 1/4, etc. - Sometimes you have two of the same effect in the same block and it can be not very clear if you don't remember where you saved it - I love the unit thus far.
 
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I use an expression pedal on the drive block to set the amount of gain. It would be really handy to allow a bit more flexibility when using channels so can set the min/Max levels per channel rather than at the block level. So for example I could have channel A:the blues od with a range of 3-6, and on channel D have a rat with the range of 1-9 controllable by the expression pedal. in a live situation really want to minimise tap dancing and as such something like this would open up the channel concept.


Oh and please do the channel rename wish please!

Also, any way to make the tap tempo flash on the screen a bit more prominent. I've got a midi switch for tap but the little flashing dot on the vp4 is a little bit too small. Don't want to go into tuner mode all the time to see the button flash. Personally I'd be happy with whatever block the delay is on to have the relevant FS flash the tempo.
 
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Absolutely. IMO the most glaring omission on the VP4.
My hope is that the VP4 will generate enough motivation for an updated version of the FX8. I still prefer its form and function. The layout and footswitches are ideal. It was designed pretty much perfectly. The VP4 is awesome, and definitely fills a nice place in the market. Just no way to use it in 7cm.
 
Not in stereo you can't.
Many people here complain that you can't use the 4CM in stereo. Maybe I'm not understanding something, but wouldn't you need an amp with a stereo send and return for that? Is there even such a thing? I don't think I've seen one yet.
OK, you could use two amps. But then you are tied to the same preset configuration for both amps.
 
Many people here complain that you can't use the 4CM in stereo. Maybe I'm not understanding something, but wouldn't you need an amp with a stereo send and return for that? Is there even such a thing? I don't think I've seen one yet.
OK, you could use two amps. But then you are tied to the same preset configuration for both amps.

You can use the VP in stereo. But not in 4CM configuration.
 
Many people here complain that you can't use the 4CM in stereo. Maybe I'm not understanding something, but wouldn't you need an amp with a stereo send and return for that? Is there even such a thing? I don't think I've seen one yet.
OK, you could use two amps. But then you are tied to the same preset configuration for both amps.


Stereo rigs exist. If you're using a single amp & cab then this is not an issue. However, the VP4 is a stereo multi-fx processor. The limitation of the VP4 is that if you run effects PRE (to the front of an amp) you lose one of the POST stereo jacks, limiting you to mono only. The VP4's predecessor, the FX8 had dedicated PRE & Stereo POST jacks. For someone like me running a glorious W/D/W rig it's a let down and a step in the wrong direction for functionality.
 
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