a Christmas gift the community: Perfected Tuning offsets

I’ve recently experimented with the offsets, sometimes disabling between sets, I feel like chords and single note stuff both benefit from the offset tuning. Thanks for the gift!
 
I have updated these offsets for the Axe3: Using OPEN strings, not harmonics, EADGBE = -12.6,-11.05,-9.2,-7.15,-5.15,-2.2. NOTE if you are NOT a fractal user you should use the James Taylor tuning with the G modification -12,-10,-8,mod(-7.5),-6,-3 using 12th fret harmonic tuning. This is a promise: these Fractal offsets and James Taylor Mods will be life changing and sound perfect in every key.
 
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I have updated these offsets for the Axe3: Using OPEN strings, not harmonics, EADGBE = -12.6,-11.05,-9.2,-7.15,-5.15,-2.2. NOTE if you are NOT a fractal user you should use the James Taylor tuning with the G modification -12,-10,-8,mod(-7.5),-6,-3 using 12th fret harmonic tuning. This is a promise: these Fractal offsets and James Taylor Mods will be life changing and sound perfect in every key.
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I really appreciate the work you've put in here. I have a 7 string and I normally tune the extra low string to A or B. Do you have a suggestion for what values I would use to sweeten those?
 
I've tried if on my 7 strings and it worked great :)

More than great, everything sounds very much in tune, when i play along classic rock/metal songs!
I always heard some kind of pitch difference when I was playing covers, now it's gone!
Thanks a lot :)
 
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mwd said:
Been using Evertune guitars since shortly after they came out. Evertune self adjust when you put on a capo, move up the neck or have temp or humidity changes. Since you start out in near perfect tune, each time you tune check, you only get more and more stable and accurate as time goes by making a perfect guitar to ‘fine tune’ your tunings and intonation.

Over time I was able to extract that Peterson Sweetened Tuning, on an Axe, uses these offsets if anyone wishes to give it a shot.

E1 -2.75 cts
B2 -3.10 cts
G3 0.40 cts
D4 -0.40 cts
A5 -1.20 cts
E6 -2.90 cts

(my disclaimer is that this was my experience and it was when I had my XL. Not sure if the III has changed algorithms).
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I've tried this with one of my five Everyone-guitars and I was comparing the individual notes as well as chords to one of the Toontrack EZX-pianos (as I don't play in a band but need my guitars to sound in tune with various studio instruments) and - I don't know I my mind is tricking me and want me to believe it sounds a tiiiiny bit more in tune to the Toontrack piano - but I think it actually does...

Now, I've only tested this with one guitar. But this is suppose to work for any guitar? I ain't know a shit about this but thought I'd try because if it would get me a tiny wee bit closer to "perfect" then why not.

How about bass guitar? And other tunings like C-standard? Is it suppose to work for that as well?
 
Very interested in diving into this further for 7-string applications...
If these are the 6-string offsets...
E = -12.6
A = -11.05
D = -9.2
G = -7.15
B = -5.15
E = -2.2
...note that the high and low E values are not the same, so if it applies the high B offset to a low B there's ostensibly some gap (maybe as much as 10ct, which is definitely audible).

This may not be as drastic in "drop A" (AEADGBE), which is what I normally use, because the difference between high and low A's is likely not as notable (1 8va interval instead of 2 8va).

What may be worthwhile is determining an alternate tuning frequency (A =/= 440), and adjusting each successive offset... So basically tuning to something other than 440 with offsets to sound like you're tuned to 440 with different offsets?
 
Feflicker said:
Im just baffled anyone doesnt know about sweetened tunings to be honest. Call me a tuning nerd, but I watch/read everything about tunings, microtonal guitars, fanned frets, different setups, etc to be more accurate.

THAT SAID. I prefer a perfectly intonated guitar, with low action and medium tension to minimize deflection, combined with equal temperment to a peterson strobe tuner. Why? Its what our ears are used to hearing, and youre more in tune with the rest of the band. Its just practical.

P.s. I recorded an entire album at A432 because I didnt want to drop a full half step but wanted to sound "different" and lower than regular drop "D" to help out the singer. I thought it was genius, even though it drove the engineer mad tuning the VSTs. I also preferred how it sounded. Funny thing is (years later) I learned I wasnt original at all, and many people did this before me, and A432 is apparently a magic number for tuning 😅
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Sweetened sounds off to me but 432 I really like.
 
I'm a little late to the party, but I finally had time to try these offsets... with mixed results

Disclaimer: I use an Axe II XL (not a III) and my Tom Anderson guitar has the Buzz Feiten tuning system which means I was already using some (different) offsets.

Having clarified that, these proposed offsets sounded really sweet on some songs (light rock like Black magic woman or Listen to the music). With that kind of material, I really thought these offsets mighty become permanent on my rig.

But with harder material, my guitar sounded clearly out of tune, flat. Foreplay/Long time (Boston), Voodoo thing (Colin James), Radar Love (Golden Earring), even Rosanna (Toto) were all serious misfits for those offsets. The guitar clearly sounded flat. I went back to the Feiten offsets and everything was back to sounding great.

Not sure if the Feiten system explains these differences (or perhaps the II XL), but hard pass for me.
 
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What about these offsets with new tuner?
Haven't had the chance to try new beta firmware but maybe the correct offsets can now be used?
 
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What about these offsets with new tuner?
Haven't had the chance to try new beta firmware but maybe the correct offsets can now be used?
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I can't imagine it making a difference. The JT offsets aren't AX specific, so making the AX tuner better would just make the offsets work better.
 
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