🔥Introducing ICONS - Amp Modeling + FX - Plugins & Standalone

I feel like Fractal is now going to have to hire a small army of very patient troubleshooters who are at the mercy of all the new “not working right for some reason!!!!” problems that are mostly out of their control - issues related to inferior interface cards, O/S settings, iloks, and the hardware CPU/GPU folks are running.

And human nature to stream cat videos in the background on an ancient PC downloading windows updates and running a system backup to cloud in the background and wondering why there is a teeny bit of latency!

Should be fun. Be kind folks!
 
vangrieg said:
Why does anybody need reamping in general?

You record something with whatever sound you have set up, record a DI track, and then reamp to better fit the mix. How is a plugin different?

Plugins make this much easier and faster, but the use case is the same. You don't need to worry too much about tone while recording and deal with it later.
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I have an FM9 - that's what I was thinking about the Re-Amp operation!
 
vangrieg said:
I didn’t mean to dismiss your interest at all, sorry if it came out this way.

My point was that these plugins will probably always be expensive, I don’t think their purpose is to encourage switching from hardware.



To me this question arises regardless of price.

Having a software version of a Fractal device makes a lot of sense to me as a super portable/backup solution, or for mixing/reamping/editing. Even if that version doesn’t have all the amps, and I have to purchase some bundles or whatever. But it has to have compatible presets, and certainly the same selection of effects blocks.

Otherwise I’m not sure it’s worth even 10 bucks for me personally.
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I personally disagree with this.
Myself I often use software for my composing and fractal hardware for playing live. (Mostly use Axe 3 for composing).
The fact that Icons is software, you have a world of 3rd party plugins that can be used to expand your effect possibilities with infinite possibilities.
 
Welp, I should have waited. I only use the JTM45 in my AM4, that’s it, no other blocks. Give me a JTM45 in a plugin with Fractal quality modeling and I can save a few bucks on my AM4. I’m excited.
 
slinky005 said:
I personally disagree with this.
Myself I often use software for my composing and fractal hardware for playing live. (Mostly use Axe 3 for composing).
The fact that Icons is software, you have a world of 3rd party plugins that can be used to expand your effect possibilities with infinite possibilities.
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Surely there are plenty of software option but even with those I don’t see how compatibility with hardware would hurt.

My workflow is the opposite, it’s easier for me to play with a real device and then use software for editing/refinement, as that’s much faster.

But mainly I would be very happy if I could have a software based backup/portable practice rig. I do have it set up in Gig Performer, but obviously would prefer to use Fractal plugins if they existed.

Helix & Helix Native are a great way of doing it.
 
rossipedia said:
Bah, who am I kidding. I'll probably snap up whichever version has the 5150s and Mark amps, ie: all the hi-gain goodies.
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For me, my High Gain wishes would be a 5150 (3 or block), Mark IV, JVM 410, Probably a Recto, I could probably use this for the vast majority of my projects and for anything else, I just reamp through my FM9.

My case use for this will really be during tracking, I have been using NAM and profiles of the model I use for tracking., This way when I playback I hear the same tone. I know I could record the amp and the DI, but this flow allows for me to edit as I track so I know what I am getting. I used to use Tonehub and Helix Native for playback during tracking but what I noticed is FAS modeling picks up things in my performance that most plugins dont. A not so nice note in a chord, a slight tuning or intonation out etc.
 
This is something I thought would never come, mostly because we were told it would not.

I do not want to be one of those that is critcal of the new goodie we get, expecting FAS to cater to my needs/wants and negating the time, effort and money they have invested in the development, not just the programming but the time dedicated to how the product should be offered.

Here are some things I think would be cool to see in the future but completely understand if its not something FAS sees value in.

A generic ICONS Plugin (maybe with some FAS models included) that also have the same FX that are in the current release. (or one amp of your choice but still including the FX) - Possibly Free or deeply discounted for existing owners of an FAS product?

You purchase ala carte amps to build the rig you want. All to be used in the same plugin.
For me that would be a 5150, Mark (IV or II but prefer IV), a High Gain Marshall (410 maybe?) and maybe a Recto, maybe a Vox style. This actually be overkill but would probably handle 85-90% of my projects. I work in a handful of generes but mostly hard rock.

Dynamic discounting.- Say an amp model is $99 but if you buy 2 the second maybe $85, buy 3 and the third is $75 etc.. so for the 5 above maybe I could get out with $300-$350

-OR-

Create your own bundle - choose 5 amps of your choice for something like $300 (intro price).


Of course its easy for me to suggest these things as its not my company, my product or my profit line.

At the end of the day I am thrilled to have FAS modleing in plugins, I have taken some heat over the years from others for expressing my opinion that FAS is missing out a share of the market for not having these.
 
vangrieg said:
Why does anybody need reamping in general?

You record something with whatever sound you have set up, record a DI track, and then reamp to better fit the mix. How is a plugin different?
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A plug-in is different because you direct record clean through sound card in your DAW and add the plug-in (amp and effects) after the clean signal. When you bypass the plug-in you have your recorded clean sound. So you can always change preset or change to a different plug-in. You don’t need a DI box to re-amp.
 
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