Axe-Fx III Firmware 28.05 Public Beta

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FractalAudio said:
It doesn't bother me. It happens every time. All that matters is that the amps test more accurate than before.

The output transformer improvement has eliminated something that has baffled me for years. Previously I would always measure a slight dip in the midrange response relative to the real amp. Not a lot, around 0.5 dB but still not perfect. I finally figured out what was causing this.
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Thank you for, inderctly, answering my question back at post #6.
 
JoKeR III said:
Just played around for a couple of hours after updating and it feels great!

Using the Div/13 CJ Boost model, the tone is a bit more open sounding. I had tweaked the Speaker Impedance Curve to add a bit more high end response/sparkle, but it needed to be set closer to default after this update.

I thought it was perfect before, but now it's perfecter. Thank you!
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Uncle Ben....is that you??🤣
 
Fab8040 said:
Thank you guys...as i wrote in my First posts i was quite confident about my statement... especially because i own a real Mark iv reva and the axe II was closer...
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The Axe II was close enough for me to sell off my old Mark IVa, so I never had it to compare head to head with the III directly. Never noticed the change myself, but good sleuthing.
 
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Saarang Narayan said:
Just updated to the latest FW and played through my beloved JVM OD2 Orange. It sounds a lot more like a CCV to me than it did before. Lots of scratchy kerrang that I kept hearing people say this amp had in truckloads. Felt more "raw" than before. In case you miss the older tones, just change the tonestack to JS410 and it will get rid of the scratchiness. I like it equally both ways. The stock tonestack will work quite well with lower tunings and the JS410 tonestack will get a more "balanced" sound. Either way, loved the update. The other amps sound more stringy and responsive in a way that I absolutely love! Thanks Cliff and co.!
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Every beta, I say "let me hold off until full release". Then I read a Saarang insight post. And I update anyway. You have been pretty spot on so far, so here I go again🌶️👍👌🙏😜
 
jayjay347912 said:
Then I read a Saarang insight post. And I update anyway.
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Dude that's a lot of pressure on me going forward 😂

I recently moved, and the new setup isn't really ideal yet, but I do think I am noticing the right thing here. There's now that 800-ish attack in the JVM, too, that the CCV and other such amps (that I know you enjoy!) seem to have. I don't feel it was particularly missing in earlier iterations, but here you have to do less to get it out of the amp. I've rolled back the presence to around 2(!) from 6 and bumped the MV up from 4 to 5 to retain some of the mid-punch. But as I mentioned earlier, the tonestack change is a pretty great way to get around the added brightness (not that it's a bad thing).
 
yek said:
Post 68: It’s less bright!

Post 101: It’s more bright!

Fractal Audio: sigh
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You are taking into account that the friend from the other post and I tested the same amps, which is not the case. I mentioned the ones I use and I haven't tested them all. As for the difference in treble, it's a fact. I compared the 28.04 and the beta and it's quite obvious. Is it just my ears? Maybe, but the 28.04 seems to be the cure so far.
 
Saarang Narayan said:
Dude that's a lot of pressure on me going forward 😂

I recently moved, and the new setup isn't really ideal yet, but I do think I am noticing the right thing here. There's now that 800-ish attack in the JVM, too, that the CCV and other such amps (that I know you enjoy!) seem to have. I don't feel it was particularly missing in earlier iterations, but here you have to do less to get it out of the amp. I've rolled back the presence to around 2(!) from 6 and bumped the MV up from 4 to 5 to retain some of the mid-punch. But as I mentioned earlier, the tonestack change is a pretty great way to get around the added brightness (not that it's a bad thing).
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No pressure good sir, I get there are variables, but our ears seem quite similar- when it comes to the nuances we like from our high gain tones. Can't wait to try this one out, no worries points understood 🙏👌💪
 
Saarang Narayan said:
Just updated to the latest FW and played through my beloved JVM OD2 Orange. It sounds a lot more like a CCV to me than it did before. Lots of scratchy kerrang that I kept hearing people say this amp had in truckloads. Felt more "raw" than before. In case you miss the older tones, just change the tonestack to JS410 and it will get rid of the scratchiness. I like it equally both ways. The stock tonestack will work quite well with lower tunings and the JS410 tonestack will get a more "balanced" sound. Either way, loved the update. The other amps sound more stringy and responsive in a way that I absolutely love! Thanks Cliff and co.!
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Cab recommendations for OD2 orange?🤔 Currently I think I was/am using some type of Marshall XXL high gain 4x12 mix i.r.
 
FractalAudio said:
It doesn't bother me. It happens every time. All that matters is that the amps test more accurate than before.

The output transformer improvement has eliminated something that has baffled me for years. Previously I would always measure a slight dip in the midrange response relative to the real amp. Not a lot, around 0.5 dB but still not perfect. I finally figured out what was causing this.
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🤯🤯🤯💪❤️
 
boyce89976 said:
I've not updated to a beta FW for a while now after being disappointed by a couple versions. Now, I read all of the feedback first, and still usually wait for the release version. Some of the feedback about this beta has me curious though... the descriptions "raw" "heavier punch" "more focused" are particularly interesting. So are you saying that the beta sounds better for you now, than your last FW?
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I lean pretty hard on just a few amps, car ambler (now), class A30, & BE v3. This firmware sounds very close to 28.04 to me with the same IRs. I think 28.05 sounds as open as 28.04, but has lost much of the harshness of the previous FW. It still cuts and sounds good. I had some more aggressive HI cuts in my IRs because of the harshness of the older FW. They have been relaxed a bit with the new FW.
 
FractalAudio said:
Or it could simply be that we hear things differently from day-to-day.
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Truth. I found out the hard way. Good thing I made a copy of my main preset before butchering it up with aggressive EQs and cuts. I have to gig with a preset in a few different venues and systems before I should commit to changes. Fletcher Munson and how the room's natural acoustics have such an impact. Maybe cleaning my ears has a similar impact. haha
 
FractalAudio said:
It doesn't bother me. It happens every time. All that matters is that the amps test more accurate than before.

The output transformer improvement has eliminated something that has baffled me for years. Previously I would always measure a slight dip in the midrange response relative to the real amp. Not a lot, around 0.5 dB but still not perfect. I finally figured out what was causing this.
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Thank you for the explanation! I have a question.

One of the areas modelers haven't been as accurate as amps for me is when switching between guitars, like from single coil pickups to a guitar with humbuckers. You see it all the time from content providers with presets for single coils and presets for humbuckers. When I use my real amps, I can switch back and forth with zero EQ or pedal changes. I feel like the answer to this is in the upper mids/presence range (2khz - 4khz) and maybe in the low treble range. Does the output transformer improvement help with that?
 
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