First one I've seen on ebay...talk about markup!

[dbun]

Good way to offset the purchase of your own AX8.

People do the same with iPhones. Line up and buy a couple on launch day and sell on eBay at inflated prices - end result is they almost offset the cost of their own iPhone.

 

[iaresee]

LOL that the shipping is extra on top of that price! Dude is probably like, "Wow! So many people are looking at my auction!" Hope is a terrible thing.

 

[JayCM800XL]

If it sells... It's all FAS fault!!

But maybe all the profit will be donated to a church? It seems most units ended up with the P&W crew! The power of prayer I'd guess...

 

[willowdale]

If it sells... It's all FAS fault!!

lol.....yes it's what happens when a company insists on having a waiting list instead of just keeping adding stock as they see fit, and whoever can add to cart first & pays gets one.


But this ebay seller is doing nothing wrong.........It's a seller taking advantage of demand......whether he can get 10x the retail price or just 20% over retail is up to the individual buyer & nobody else's business.

It's also a buyer willing to pay more $ to get something much faster than joining a line & possibly waiting 6 months.

As long as no one is holding a gun to someone's head, I don't see the problem......

 

[dkenin]

I think it will be a lot longer than 6 months before it's "readily available"....

Makes my point even better!

 

[benvigil]

Good way to offset the purchase of your own AX8.

People do the same with iPhones. Line up and buy a couple on launch day and sell on eBay at inflated prices - end result is they almost offset the cost of their own iPhone.

I know a few guys that do exactly this: they buy as many iPhones as they can get their hands on.

 

[1poorplayer]

How many of you guys are now "watching" the listing........if only to see how much it goes for ?

 

[JRod4928]

Lack of patience in buyers brought about by the wait list system enables sellers to do crap like this.

Unfortunately there are people willing to actually pay for it

lol.....yes it's what happens when a company insists on having a waiting list instead of just keeping adding stock as they see fit, and whoever can add to cart first & pays gets one.


But this ebay seller is doing nothing wrong.........It's a seller taking advantage of demand......whether he can get 10x the retail price or just 20% over retail is up to the individual buyer & nobody else's business.

It's also a buyer willing to pay more $ to get something much faster than joining a line & possibly waiting 6 months.

As long as no one is holding a gun to someone's head, I don't see the problem......

I agree with what you said, though I wouldn't do it myself. But I gotta ask, are you the seller on ebay? Lol

 

[Zapa]

I don't think the warranty is transferable

So if you get bored of it (or lose both hands in an accident, or whatever) and sell it after a year, whoever gets it cannot make use of the extra warranty time?
Isn't it the same product with the same serial number which proper working order has to be guaranteed by the manufacturer for a legally obligated number of years?

Somehow the reasoning behind this escapes me...

 

[Feflicker]

Was hoping it would go unnoticed, now there is more attention on the auction I just have to decide if I'm good with the HD500x until my name comes on the waitlist or I'm gonna spend the extra money (it's more about the form factor than the cost for me).

The main decision point for me will probably be whether or not its worth it to spend extra on rev1.0 hardware that could see changes over the next few lots, with no warranty. (I think it's silly FAS doesn't provide a transferable warranty, but I believe that can be negated by simply having the original purchaser RMA it for you if it breaks within the first year, so I think the seller would need to agree to that).

 

[Matt_B_77]

So if you get bored of it (or lose both hands in an accident, or whatever) and sell it after a year, whoever gets it cannot make use of the extra warranty time?
Isn't it the same product with the same serial number which proper working order has to be guaranteed by the manufacturer for a legally obligated number of years?

Somehow the reasoning behind this escapes me...

The factory warranty is only valid to the original purchaser. FAS explicitly states this in their warranty. For me, this helps keeps used prices lower by adding value to new products. Transferable warranties are the exception to this rule.

 

[willowdale]

I agree with what you said, though I wouldn't do it myself. But I gotta ask, are you the seller on ebay? Lol

lol.......no I'm not the seller......I just see nothing wrong with somebody asking any amount they want for something they own. The free market will decide how much profit the seller will make or lose......

 

[Matt_B_77]

I think it's silly FAS doesn't provide a transferable warranty, but I believe that can be negated by simply having the original purchaser RMA it for you if it breaks within the first year, so I think the seller would need to agree to that).

Bear in mind warranty does not over shipping. based upon the size, the weight and what i know about Fed Ex shipping rates, you'd be looking at around $100-$120 shipping it back and forth.

 

[ethomas1013]

Un, no. About $50-$60 to ship it round trip from almost anywhere in the US to Fractal's office.

 

[wcfieldskx]

Last week there was an Ultra on Ebay for $1875. That makes the AX8 look like a steal at $2250....

 

[JRod4928]

lol.......no I'm not the seller......I just see nothing wrong with somebody asking any amount they want for something they own. The free market will decide how much profit the seller will make or lose......

Yeah I agree. Impatience is easily exploited

 

[Matt_B_77]

Un, no. About $50-$60 to ship it round trip from almost anywhere in the US to Fractal's office.

It seems you didn't read the part of the post I quoted. If the seller agrees to to help out the buyer with warranty then the unit would have to be shipped to the seller, then to FAS, back to the seller then back to the buyer. That's 4 trips total which doubles that $50-$60.

The whole thing is hypothetical anyway because how this awkward situation would be handled if at all is unknown. It's kind of unethical IMHO anyway.

 

[ethomas1013]

Oops, sorry. You are right, I missed that. If there were a problem, it would probably be cheaper to ship it directly to FAS and pay them for the repair.

 

[dbun]

lol.....yes it's what happens when a company insists on having a waiting list instead of just keeping adding stock as they see fit, and whoever can add to cart first & pays gets one.

Not quite - same thing happens with Apple products on release day and there are no waiting lists - first in best dressed.

All it comes down to is the mechanics of an open market.

 

[Rick]

Isn't it the same product with the same serial number which proper working order has to be guaranteed by the manufacturer for a legally obligated number of years?
Somehow the reasoning behind this escapes me...

Its warranty is for however long the manufacturer offers to the original buyer. Some manufacturers offer more coverage, some less. My Soldano gear was under warranty for life, to whoever owned it. That was the most extreme warranty I have seen. I've also seen gear at twice the cost of the Axe Fx II with a 90 day warranty. Some manufacturers (Apple being one) offer a transferable warranty at extra cost. It's between the manufacturer and the buyer to agree upon, with the buyer having the last word. Don't agree, don't buy!

My best guess on the reasoning behind it, and it is just that, is that the limitation is a motivator for the buyer to purchase new instead of used. The manufacturer is offering the warranty at their cost, and they gain no profit when a unit is sold used, so there is no motivation for them to offer warranty there. Just a guess, I note.