Will there be another far field cab pack?

[Lilarcor]

The title says it all.
I really like the far field pack #2 and i would definitely pay for #3 if it ever came out.

 

[FractalAudio]

It's on the to-do list. We found a good place to do it. It's an indoor sports field complex.

 

[antcarrier]

We found a good place to do it. It's an indoor sports field complex.

That's what I use. It works well!

 

[yeky83]

I dig it! Looking forward to it, thank you @FractalAudio!

 

[Lilarcor]

Yay! I can't wait for it. Thanks Fractal Audio!

 

[ethomas1013]

This is good news. Looking forward to it.

 

[yyz67]

It's on the to-do list.

Cliff, what about non-MP factory cabs?

And if so, would there be a way to replace the MP factory ones with non-MP ones 1-to-1 (thus not requiring user cab slots)? Of course knowing that presets with 2+ cabs would need to be auditioned.

 

[Admin M@]

Cliff, what about non-MP factory cabs?

We ran into some hurdles on that one. We needed permission to distribute the IRs as computer files, which would be the only way to get them to you. Some of the providers were cool with this, others not so much.

 

[MattBowman]

It's on the to-do list. We found a good place to do it. It's an indoor sports field complex.

If it's the one not too far from the office, that's where I broke my finger years ago

 

[MrGuitarabuse]

If it's the one not too far from the office, that's where I broke my finger years ago

Did someone pull it too hard?

 

[MattBowman]

Did someone pull it too hard?

a football hit it when I wasn't looking and snapped it sideways, ouch. Fun fact, I taped it and finished the game, but that was not fun.

 

[yeky83]

We ran into some hurdles on that one. We needed permission to distribute the IRs as computer files, which would be the only way to get them to you. Some of the providers were cool with this, others not so much.

Thanks for the response. When you say “IRs as computer files,” are you referring to .syx files?

 

[FractalAudio]

Cliff, what about non-MP factory cabs?

And if so, would there be a way to replace the MP factory ones with non-MP ones 1-to-1 (thus not requiring user cab slots)? Of course knowing that presets with 2+ cabs would need to be auditioned.

It's funny you ask that because the other day I loaded User 1 and 2 with non-MP versions of the factory cabs. Then I spent about an hour doing blind A/B tests. Now I like to think I have some good ears and I couldn't hear a difference. The waveforms don't even look all that different. Guitar speakers are essentially minimum phase devices so an MP transform has minimal effect.

Then I tried A/B comparisons using mixes. Again I couldn't hear any difference and the takeaway was that non-MP is a pain in the a** because you have to manually align every time you change an IR.

 

[maxdown]

We ran into some hurdles on that one.

You could run into a few more when shooting FF IRs in that indoor sports stadium.

 

[DLC86]

We ran into some hurdles on that one. We needed permission to distribute the IRs as computer files, which would be the only way to get them to you. Some of the providers were cool with this, others not so much.

Couldn't you just replace the factory IRs with them and add a MPT switch in the cab block?

 

[FractalAudio]

Couldn't you just replace the factory IRs with them and add a MPT switch in the cab block?

No as this would require storing the entire 8K IR.

 

[DLC86]

No as this would require storing the entire 8K IR.

By 8K you mean sample lenght?
In this case I don't get it, why is that different than loading a raw or auto-trimmed IR in a user cab slot?

If I'm not asking too much

And also we already have an mpt switch in the cab block (sort of): smoothing parameter set to a non 0 value.

 

[yek]

By 8K you mean sample lenght?
In this case I don't get it, why is that different than loading a raw or auto-trimmed IR in a user cab slot?

If I'm not asking too much

And also we already have an mpt switch in the cab block (sort of): smoothing parameter set to a non 0 value.

Smoothing (De-Phase) is different from MPT.
It decreases dips and peaks.

 

[DLC86]

Smoothing (De-Phase) is different from MPT.
It decreases dips and peaks.

Yes I know, what I mean is that if you load a non-mpt IR and apply smoothing (even 0.01) the IR gets minimum phase transformed, just look at the align graph and it'll be evident.

Probably the dephase algorithm can't be applied to a raw IR and it automatically applies the MPT as soon as it is turned up

 

[yeky83]

It's funny you ask that because the other day I loaded User 1 and 2 with non-MP versions of the factory cabs. Then I spent about an hour doing blind A/B tests. Now I like to think I have some good ears and I couldn't hear a difference. The waveforms don't even look all that different. Guitar speakers are essentially minimum phase devices so an MP transform has minimal effect.

Then I tried A/B comparisons using mixes. Again I couldn't hear any difference and the takeaway was that non-MP is a pain in the a** because you have to manually align every time you change an IR.

This seems in contrast to what you said here: https://forum.fractalaudio.com/threads/non-minimum-phase-irs.146046/#post-1726942

Was there something about the Wellspring session IRs in particular that made MPT more noticeable?