BobXX
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[ Edit: added user's Manual extract of vintage GX-700 and printscreen of GT-PRO editor ]
[ Edited and corrrected after suggestions from Unix-guy, Thank you for your contributes ! ]
I need to decide - differently in each preset (I assume in modifiers panel) - the temporary or toggle action from each physical momentary MIDI switch of foot controllers and RF Guitar-to-MIDI controller.
I mean it could act as a temporary switch in one preset, and as a toggle (latching) switch in another.
Momentary:
assign to each switches's ON and OFF positions the MIN MAX parameter's values ==> Easy to do with AF3 with modifiers
Toggle:
assign the same MIN MAX values (+ the starting one, when a preset is loaded) but they are then toggled instead, Push-ON Push-OFF (latching) behaviour, instead of momentary Push-ON Release-OFF.
In other words AXE FXIII should optionally toggle MAX e MIN parameter's values each time it receives e.g. a push CC#xx 127,
ignoring the release commands (CC#xx 0).
With my 2 previous generations of equipments (more than 15 years) it was easy to exploit this possibility very easily, but it seems impossible today with my new beast AF3 (I hope to be wrong):
Alternative solution:
We could exploit Scene/Channels capabilities to perform same result. Just allow to a momentary MIDI switch to momentary OR toggle switch between 2 scenes and 2 channels.
Main use (but not only) is for SOLOs: e.g. when I start a solo, I need a single push to increase a little the volume, the compression, increasing gain of a ducked delay and so on. Release my pedal and forgot it while performing my solo and running on the stage, then push the same switch again when solo is ended.
I was a little amazed that in Fractal manuals the word "solo" for changing parameters is mentioned only once, for front panel knobs.
NOTE: please don't say that it's a controller's job, here some of the reasons:
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Edit:
Here there are two examples of guitar digital multieffects that do (did) what I'm asking many years ago GX-700 and more recently the GT-PRO.
We are referring to BOSS/ROLAND, they were... leaders in the rack mounting multieffects (now my choice is for Fractal).
Please see the images, "Source mode" refers to the expected action from each switch,
what they call "normal" is the exact copy of MIDI command received by the controller, e.g. toggling from CC#xx 127 (push) and CC#xx 0 (release).
"Toggle" is what I'm asking, it changes a momentary switch into a latching behaviour, by triggering events from each push command only, simply ignoring the release CC.
Their "assign" panel is similar to our "modifiers panel", where they can change, trigger & toggle any parameter (ANY) and blocks ON/OFF status. In each preset they can choose which assign to activate, even temporary and toggle together for same switch.
I think Fractal could add this in our Modifiers panel obtaining even more flexiblity than Roland.
I can garantee it works fine with ALL foot controllers (from the cheaper Behringer FCB1010 and above), even from my Guitar-to-Midi controller.
No need to use specific controllers, the big CPUs, the intelligence, communication pivot are in the rack, as they should be IMHO.
If you need more information just ask !
[ Edited and corrrected after suggestions from Unix-guy, Thank you for your contributes ! ]
I need to decide - differently in each preset (I assume in modifiers panel) - the temporary or toggle action from each physical momentary MIDI switch of foot controllers and RF Guitar-to-MIDI controller.
I mean it could act as a temporary switch in one preset, and as a toggle (latching) switch in another.
Momentary:
assign to each switches's ON and OFF positions the MIN MAX parameter's values ==> Easy to do with AF3 with modifiers
Toggle:
assign the same MIN MAX values (+ the starting one, when a preset is loaded) but they are then toggled instead, Push-ON Push-OFF (latching) behaviour, instead of momentary Push-ON Release-OFF.
In other words AXE FXIII should optionally toggle MAX e MIN parameter's values each time it receives e.g. a push CC#xx 127,
ignoring the release commands (CC#xx 0).
With my 2 previous generations of equipments (more than 15 years) it was easy to exploit this possibility very easily, but it seems impossible today with my new beast AF3 (I hope to be wrong):
Alternative solution:
We could exploit Scene/Channels capabilities to perform same result. Just allow to a momentary MIDI switch to momentary OR toggle switch between 2 scenes and 2 channels.
Main use (but not only) is for SOLOs: e.g. when I start a solo, I need a single push to increase a little the volume, the compression, increasing gain of a ducked delay and so on. Release my pedal and forgot it while performing my solo and running on the stage, then push the same switch again when solo is ended.
I was a little amazed that in Fractal manuals the word "solo" for changing parameters is mentioned only once, for front panel knobs.
NOTE: please don't say that it's a controller's job, here some of the reasons:
1) If I program the latching behavior in the controller it could be in the "on" position at the new preset start, I need to avoid it
2) I have 2 controllers, both aren't able to program MIDI switches behaviour (momentary/latching) by preset/PC, one of them is a Guitar-to-MIDI radio controller that sends PCs via RF, AFAIK no Guitar-to-MIDI in the market have this switches' programmability possibility. I have to rely on Fractal intelligence then
3) But even if they were able, it will be a very tricky job to do to match Presets settings in all controllers with the Presets in AF3. Impractical. Is much better to set everything in AF3.
4) Even if they can and even if I program them accurately, each controller cannot know what the other did, only AF3 knows which Preset it is currently running, that's why is its job to act accordingly. Other less powerful rack systems do it.
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Edit:
Here there are two examples of guitar digital multieffects that do (did) what I'm asking many years ago GX-700 and more recently the GT-PRO.
We are referring to BOSS/ROLAND, they were... leaders in the rack mounting multieffects (now my choice is for Fractal).
Please see the images, "Source mode" refers to the expected action from each switch,
what they call "normal" is the exact copy of MIDI command received by the controller, e.g. toggling from CC#xx 127 (push) and CC#xx 0 (release).
"Toggle" is what I'm asking, it changes a momentary switch into a latching behaviour, by triggering events from each push command only, simply ignoring the release CC.
Their "assign" panel is similar to our "modifiers panel", where they can change, trigger & toggle any parameter (ANY) and blocks ON/OFF status. In each preset they can choose which assign to activate, even temporary and toggle together for same switch.
I think Fractal could add this in our Modifiers panel obtaining even more flexiblity than Roland.
I can garantee it works fine with ALL foot controllers (from the cheaper Behringer FCB1010 and above), even from my Guitar-to-Midi controller.
No need to use specific controllers, the big CPUs, the intelligence, communication pivot are in the rack, as they should be IMHO.
If you need more information just ask !
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