One more question, will this also translate to the Orange Modern Channel as well? Just started using it at last night's practice. Much more aggressive. Thanks again Cliff!
No, the Modern Channel has no feedback.
One more question, will this also translate to the Orange Modern Channel as well? Just started using it at last night's practice. Much more aggressive. Thanks again Cliff!
It's annoying when the real amp sounds better than AxeFx. But Trust me the axe can be tweaked to sound betterWent in today with a fresh pair of ears and on first test my global settings made the Axe-fx sound muddy, I adjusted it and it sounded a bit cleaner. Turned on the Triple Rec and it sounded much cleaner on the low end and a bit more pronounced. Dammit...
Had to stop because I'm getting fiber run to my house! Excited.
Still going to test it at practice tomorrow to get a better feel for things in a band environment.
Just now I tested my Axe with the Recto in 4CM and it was a bit strange because it sounded out of phase
Something i can tell you from experience, I never had any luck running my AxeFx through my fender HRD tube amp. No matter how much I tweaked. You gotta try your axe through some powered monitors or an FRFR cab as this was the only way it would sound good in my experience. It's also recommended to use a solid state power amp if using an external amp for obvious reasons.No kidding it's annoying as... Well you know. Just now I tested my Axe with the Recto in 4CM and it was a bit strange because it sounded out of phase and then I changed the channel in the back and then it sounded ok. I then muted the FX Loop and added an amp block and they had a similar character to them which I'm guessing has more to do with the Recto power amp. Disconnected everything and went straight to my Mesa 2x12 into the Recto this time and sounded good. I disconnected the Recto and plugged in the Axe and I used Recto 2 Red and it sounded very low, so I used the utility and turned up the gain until I got to unity and the Axe sounded just as good as the Recto... Again, WTF!!! I then tried it back on the Mesa 4x12 and with the amp sim close to unity and it sounded similar to the real deal without any global eq'ing. Again... WTF?!?!??
I have no idea what's going on now... My ears are playing tricks on me... Tomorrow can't come fast enough so I can jam these in a band environment.
Keep tweaking you'll get there with the axe! Have you tried a tonematch or IR of your cab?Thank you so much for the input fellas...
Finally had a chance to A/B it at practice with my Marshall 4x12 with V30's. They did sound very similar but there was that 3D low end that was missing a bit. I cranked it and it was still pretty close, the only issue was that the Axe-fx amp sim sounded very compressed on some of the Recto Amp sims, along with having to kick up the level within the amp sim to get it to unity gain under the utility.
After practice I realized that I was running the Triple Rec in half power, I switched it to Full Power and the low end thickness and clarity was head and shoulders above any of the Axe-fx Recto amp sims. Every note was clear. Is the Triple that much clearer than the Dual Rec?
I wouldn't have thought that there would have been that much of a difference between the Dual Rectifier and the Triple Rectifier but apparently there is. While in search of "Axe-fx like" effects at a super low budget I came across the Digitech RP360XP (not saying it's anywhere close, just saying I was researching) and it apparently has an amp sim for both the dual and the triple recs. Here's a video where the amp sims sound like crap but you can immediately tell that the Triple has way more going on in the low end when compared to the Dual.
Even though my other guitarist has a Dual Rectifier, (he added KT88 tubes before I met him and he says that it adds all kinds of low end awesomeness because they are bigger tubes) I can't compare it against the Axe-fx sims because all the Recto amp sims (according to the wiki) are from the Dual Rectifier and none are from the Triple Rectifier. I was doing some research on a 2nd rig setup for the Triple Rec (don't want to have to lug around my 4U with the Axe-fx and a pedal board) and I ended up buying an older TC Electronic Nova System that should be here sometime this week. All I really use is the Tuner, Delay, Wah and Whammy... sometimes I use a Flanger/Phaser... so I'm going to have to get an expression pedal and wah. Maybe I'll just ditch the wah all together, I only use it on one intro.
Just got a hold of a momentary latching pedal on a deal that I got on CL (It's the same thing as a sustain pedal for a midi keyboard right?), so I'm hoping to Amp Match the Red Channel to the Axe-fx. What amp sim should I be using? According to the wiki:
It's funny because in the short amount of time that I've used the Triple Rectifier, it's anything but flubby. The low end is just menacing, thick and clear. We actually just had a show this past Sunday and I had the best tone I've ever had on stage. Now I want to get that in my Axe-fx so I don't have to worry about tubes.
- "If you want that Recto crunch but not so flubby and fizzy try the SOLO models. They're much brighter so I turn the treble down quite a bit." source
I have never been able to dial in that same low end punch on my Axe-FX II / GT1000FX rig. The low end never thumps the same. I have tried the Axe-FX II into the Triple's power section, and that does help.... but then I hit a point where I thought it seemed useless to run a modeler into half the amp... to emulate the same amp, lol. Maybe Cliff will add a Triple Recto sometime, along with other higher powered amps like a Mark III Coliseum, and VHT Ultra Leads. Something about those huge power sections really bring the thump.
Maybe Cliff needs to invent a modeling power amp Maybe the flat poweramp idea is what holds it back. A more interactive poweramp might help with thumping dynamics.
I couldn't agree more. I think the direct tone is great and has been pretty great mainly due to IR's being so good and the modeling improvements. Something is off though whenever you want to run it through a traditional guitar cab. I've had so many different power amps. Currently I was enjoying the Fryette Power Station but started to really notice the pronounced harsher high's I was getting. Cutting down those frequencies helps but at the same time hurts the sound. It's got me headed back to tube amp land in 4 cable method.