Mark V Amp Match - All Channels & Modes

R.D. said:
For you FRFR guys that dig the hollow sound of the original dual rec ..., try the 4x12 Cali ! It's really, REALLY aggressive sounding :evil
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I'm using the 412 Cali also and these Mark V sims are amazing. Probably the best sounding stuff on the unit.
 
Hey,

Hate to derail this thread because I love what's going on with ToneMatching and this Mark V set is probably the best stuff I've heard yet but why is it that the ToneMatches sound better than the simulations that Cliff and the team created? This is not a knock on anyone again. Just trying to figure out the difference in process between creating a sim and creating a TM.

Shouldn't the TM be part of the process when creating a amp simulation and basically be part of the core sim? Probably best answered by Cliff or one of the engineers at Fractal.

Just a thought.
 
Gabaghoul said:
Shouldn't the TM be part of the process when creating a amp simulation and basically be part of the core sim?
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Cliff has stated multiple times that tone matching is baked into the amp sims for all the amps that he as a physical unit. As to why things sound different, i can t say.
 
I guess it just comes down to the settings that cliff had when he tone-matched the Mark V? Maybe?

Is that how ToneMatching works? Is it dependent on the settings of the amp when you record?
 
The Mark V modes are not exact replications of the original circuit, which is why it would sound different. So the Mark IV circuit on the Mark V will be a BIT different than the Mark IV amp itself. Or at least that's the conclusion I have come to!
 
The Mark V is exact replica of a Mark IV.But it does not replicate all the push pull ,bright on off switches.Having owned a Mark VI and dialed in on the Ultra.as long as you use exactely same speaker and pickups(Mark V hates some pickups) you get 100 % same tone.And you have to be carefull about the Diode/triode setting in channel 3(II C + ,IV,Extreme)

Same on Mark II C+, canot comment on MArk I never played one

Roland
 
floydian80 said:
Glad you guys are digging it! While i have the amp, i made a couple more presets trying to replicate the awesome Petrucci LTE Live tone. I think they came out well. I did it in both the IIC+ and IV mode. Slight modifications to the settings. Will post when i get home this evening.

Yup since i used the synth block to do these matches, it should translate well to all types of guitars.
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Still waiting for these to be posted (hint hint). :D

Anyway, I was finally able to try these now after receiving my Axe II a week ago and they are great. I actually am using my own amp settings with the Tone Match block from one of the patches, plus a second Tone Match I did of a Mark IV clip I have that I really like, as a Cab block. The combination sounds amazing and already blows away the Mesa Mark tone I worked forever on with my Axe FX Standard.
 
On a PC,save as with right click is not a option only copy . Can YOU please list the syx files here. Thanks K
 
klaushouz said:
On a PC,save as with right click is not a option only copy . Can YOU please list the syx files here. Thanks K
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I don't understand ...
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Kind of off-topic, since no one has that problem in here. I use Mozilla Firefox 13 on Windows 7. "Ziel speichern unter ..." is "Save target as ..." in English. Works fine for me.
 
Trouble downloading/uploading into Axe Edit/AxeII

floydian80 said:
Hello Everyone, i am excited to share this pack with you. I got a bit impatient waiting for a Mark V amp match, so i went to guitar center and bought the dang thing! Spent the last day or so Amp Matching and the result is this pack. Sorry i don't have clips to share, but with my ears i don't hear much difference! It helps that there are already amps (USA Clean, USA Rhythm, USA Lead, USA IIC+) in the Axe that are close to the Mark V modes.

A few notes here:

- The procedure used to do the amp match was as detailed out by Morphosis (Thank you!), using the template preset and sine wave "synth" noise to send signal
- The Mark V was connected to Axe FX II via the Slave Out. As per the Mark V manual the slave out is after the "Preamp" and "Poweramp", so it's getting the both.
- I used an Ownhammer Cab after the ToneMatch block. It's a Mesa V30(2) Cab with a blend of SM57 & MD421 Mics. If you don't have these Cabs you can substitute for any Cab of your liking. I am sure it will sound good. The Tone Match is capturing before the Cab so the Cab was not part of the tone match process per say!
- All Channels & Modes were matched in 90 Watts and Full Power setting on the Mark V
- Each setting was done in Fat Switch On & Fat Switch Off. This is indicated with an "F" at the end of the Preset Name
- Channel 3 Mark IIC+ Mode was done with the "Triode" Poweramp setting whereas the Mark IV & Extreme Modes were done with the "Pentode" setting.
- Channel 2 Crunch Mode & Channel 3 Mark IIC+, Mark IV & Extreme modes were done using the EQ Sliders on the Mark V in the typical "V- Shape". All other Modes were done without using the EQ Sliders.
- I generally used John Petrucci type settings where applicable as they are readily available and well he's my favorite guitarist

Alright so there you have it! Feel free to provide feedback. I have not tried amp matching utilizing "Pink Noise" or "by playing chords" on the guitar as Cliff suggested. If i have time i may try it.

Hope some of you find this bank useful! Since i exported these with the Axe-Edit i am not sure if there will be any corruption of the presets or not. ENJOY!

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1701683/Mark V.syx
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I can download it using "Save Link As" only. When I try "import from preset file" [Recall], it doesn't work.

Am I doing something wrong? Is it because I have a mac, or because I have 6.01 instead of 6.02?

HELP!
 
themaidenmaniac said:
Im a bit worried that forthcoming firmwares might kill all the good work on these :p
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There could possibly be a solution to this, if we could backup the reference TM data somehow. I added this to the wish list a while ago http://forum.fractalaudio.com/axe-fx-ii-wish-list/52217-backup-local-reference-tm-data-axe-edit.html . If this could be implemented, all one would have to do is upload a reference file and re-sweep the synth block for the local TM following firmware updates, and the sounds of previous firmwares could be relatively maintained.
 
When I load the bank, it is completely muted. When I bypass the cab, I can hear just the amp.

Cab L says 000.syx and cab R says 001.sys..hmm?

Or are you suppose to just use your own cabs......
 
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