Rex
Dignified but Approachable
Amen, brother....word/speak and/or word/type is a ridiculously tricky thing to manage.
Amen, brother....word/speak and/or word/type is a ridiculously tricky thing to manage.
So Jay, where does an Axe-playing, non-contractor average Joe like myself start to look for a speaker that's likely to exhibit that kind of difference in transparency — one that's designed with similar requirements in mind — short of stealing one from a Frazier-loaded facility?I knew there would be a difference, but my expectation was that it would be relatively small and that a given listener/player could not be expected to prefer one over the other. I was wrong. The difference was not subtle by any definition of the word, and it was immediately clear to both of us that my monitor was significantly more transparent than the TS.
What is the relationship between this unit and Frazier?Jay brought a high end coaxial 12" bi-amped monitor that he designed and built.
Same designer.What is the relationship between this unit and Frazier?
What is the relationship between this unit and Frazier?
Maybe so huh? Design the Atomic GO hard over into traditional guitar land. That would also open up another interesting possibility for the traditional guitar speaker guy. Guitar speaker guys could buy one of each and run a very powerful wet/dry rig. Run dry amp simulator tone to the Atomic GO and then run ambient and modulatory effects 100% wet to the Atomic FRFR. The traditional cabinet guy could have his guitar cabinet experience punchy and dry and then surround it with the Axe ambient effects represented in full FRFR detail from a separate sound source. Wet/dry and wet/dry/wet rigs sound huge and glorious when done properly. For FOH you could send the sound man two signals, one dry and one wet, and let him mix your chosen ambient effects to suit the room.(sixstring) Scotts not a bad idea... though I would suggest a tube power amp with a neutral guitar speaker for the guy looking for the traditional rig, then the high end FRFR rig. This way you take care of both camps.
P.S. My brain has broken loose from its' moorings. I'm having an insomnia night.
All we know for sure is that he has a significantly better monitor than scotts has.Jay has left us with a problem. He obviously has a significantly better monitor than we do.
I must have missed that post.But he...says he has no clue what is available out there...
HaHa Dutch! I'm not asleep yet. Starting to feel the fuzzy skin thing but not quite ready to pass out yet.(Dutch) Jay has left us with a problem. He obviously has a significantly better monitor than we do.
Indeed. One would have to have ears on experience with everything that everyone owns to make an accurate all-encompassing generalization.(Rex) All we know for sure is that he has a significantly better monitor than scotts has.
Why are people constantly talking about neutral guitar speaker/amp.neutral guitar speaker
Why are people constantly talking about neutral guitar speaker/amp.
To me it sounds like f... ... having sex for virginity.
Guitar related amplification is meant to have a sound, not to have an HiFi reproduction.
I own Frazier, and it is a Frazier product.What is the relationship between this unit and Frazier?
In this case, the Axe-Fx is the "guitar related" part of the equation. Assuming you are able to produce the sound you want from it - not a given by any means - then the amplification you need to use is not "guitar related amplification." If I had not been able to get my Axe-Fx to do exactly what I wanted on its own, with no external Band-Aids, I would not be an Axe-Fx owner.Why are people constantly talking about neutral guitar speaker/amp.
To me it sounds like f... ... having sex for virginity.
Guitar related amplification is meant to have a sound, not to have an HiFi reproduction.
If you read all of Scott's OP and some of his earlier posts on amplification, it will become apparent that, in his view, the monitors he now uses are substantially better than all the ones that have become popular with Axe-Fx users. And he has auditioned all of those speakers at some length. Whether you would agree with him on his observations is an open question. It is apparent to me, having met Scott, heard him play, and discussed what we were both hearing in detail, that he has a very well-developed ear for sonic differences. I am confident that, given the "opportunity" to audition all the monitors he has, he and I would be in agreement when it comes to ranking them.All we know for sure is that he has a significantly better monitor than scotts has.
I've only had to state that publicly a dozen or so times over the past four years.I must have missed that post.
Because the Axe-FX is what's defining the sound - with the amp, cab and effects. The power amp and speaker need to be fully neutral (FRFR) to be able to reproduce those sounds with perfection - how they're "supposed to sound". If the speaker isn't fully neutral, it will alter the sound. Like painting a picture on a blue background. It will look different than if you had painted it on a neutral, white background.
In this case, the Axe-Fx is the "guitar related" part of the equation. Assuming you are able to produce the sound you want from it - not a given by any means - then the amplification you need to use is not "guitar related amplification." If I had not been able to get my Axe-Fx to do exactly what I wanted on its own, with no external Band-Aids, I would not be an Axe-Fx owner.