Just looking at the preset on FracTool, it uses two Synth blocks, which is not possible on the FM3.https://forum.fractalaudio.com/threads/bagpipes-patch-updated-for-axefx-iii.156151/
Maybe it translates to the FM3.
Hello all, I am the proud owner of a FM3 since yesterday. I am wondering if anyone with a AXEII tone match capability can match the skirling bagpipe guitar tone to the excellent 80s band Big Country? Looking for that tone at 00:55. Thanx
Hello all, I am the proud owner of a FM3 since yesterday. I am wondering if anyone with a AXEII tone match capability can match the skirling bagpipe guitar tone to the excellent 80s band Big Country? Looking for that tone at 00:55. Thanx
Do you even realize how smug and dismissive you sound?With respect to all the people who were nice enough to respond to you trying to be helpful it never seizes to amaze me how little people in general know, or probably more accurately, care to know about the amazing guitar sounds guitarists from the early '80's like Stewart Adamson from "Big Country" created and how they got their signature sounds. I always thought there was some kind of stigma put on many "new wave/alternative" guitarists from that area that they were just average guitar players with gimmics, guitar synths and overprocessing in the studio which makes me laugh as many of these guitarists would accurately reproduce their amazing studio sounds in live situations with relatively little gear and no guitar synths at all. When I say little gear, it was about the same quantity as the hair bands back then, just used differently and often more progressively.
I'm afraid most of the advice you got here isn't going to help you get that authentic Big Country sound. You should really know the equipment he was using then and his signal path to start with. For one thing, he never used a guitar synth to get that sound or on any of his awesome sounds so using the bagpipe preset someone put on Axechange while being a great preset for what it is, it's not going to get you that sound since no synth was used. And no, he didn't use any chorus or compression either. He used an old MXR Pitch Transposer (pitch shifter) with the pitch shifted an octive or something like that with some detuning for the distinct modulated effect he had. He combined this with some medium modulation delay via Korg SDD2000. He used sold state Fender Showman amps. These were the Fender amps Rivera designed when he was at Fender and are the best sounding solid state amps I've ever heard aside from some modelers, both in their distortion and clean sound. They have a very warm and unique sound both clean and distorted. I wish these amps were modeled in Axe Fx. His distortion came from his amps which have extensive EQing controls. He also used a duel nose gate. This is all he used to get all his great sounds until their third full album where he expanded his sound canvas a bit and added a few modulation fx.
Guitar players from the early '80s don't get nearly the respect and recognition they deserve for their very cool and unique guitar sounds they had.
Stuart Adamson of Big Country, Jamie West Oram of The Fixx, Paul Reynolds of Flock of Seagulls, Charlie Burchill of Simple Minds, etc all had awesome unique signature guitar sounds but I have yet to hear anyone reproduce their sounds accurately with the exception of one guy on youtube that reproduced the Big Country sound but he is a Big Country megafan who has duplicated all of Stewarts gear to the T. All the presets I've heard trying to duplicate these guitar players sounds don't even come close in my opinion. The funny thing is The Edge of U2 came from this stock of guitarists and I'm sure no one would duplicate his sound either had U2 vanished as a group in the lime light in the mid 80's like all these other bands did.
Well pardon me all over the place! Sounds to me like you took it the wrong way. The gentleman was asking how to get the best duplication of the bagpipe-like sound Big Country got on that song, NOT the best literal bagpipe duplication, and it wasn't with a synth. Unintentionally sending him in the wrong direction by answering him with the assumption it was a synth which it was not will end up in frustration and wasting a lot of his time. Did I disrespect those people trying to help him? No I did not. I can't help it if your little feelings were hurt being corrected because you didn't have a clue on how to get the sound he was asking for or bother to do any research on how to get that sound and lazily just referred him to a literal bagpipe recreation with a synth which is not what he was asking for and putting him in the wrong direction. Did I just disrespect you a bit, ya I guess maybe I did.Do you even realize how smug and dismissive you sound?
Granted, you are correct that by all reports the bagpipe tone in question was achieved w/o the use of synths (and definitely no use of modeling). The OP is asking how to achieve the tone though. And guess what? We now have lots of cool tools! Why not use them?!?
BTW, his name was Stuart and not Stewart.
wasn't he also using some kind of coin instead of a pick on that sound? I think I read that years ago in an interview somewhere. and interestingly that whole article was along the same lines as what you said as one of the first things they said was that all his tones most of the time came just from very creative ideas...With respect to all the people who were nice enough to respond to you trying to be helpful it never seizes to amaze me how little people in general know, or probably more accurately, care to know about the amazing guitar sounds guitarists from the early '80's like Stewart Adamson from "Big Country" created and how they got their signature sounds. I always thought there was some kind of stigma put on many "new wave/alternative" guitarists from that area that they were just average guitar players with gimmics, guitar synths and overprocessing in the studio which makes me laugh as many of these guitarists would accurately reproduce their amazing studio sounds in live situations with relatively little gear and no guitar synths at all. When I say little gear, it was about the same quantity as the hair bands back then, just used differently and often more progressively.
I'm afraid most of the advice you got here isn't going to help you get that authentic Big Country sound. You should really know the equipment he was using then and his signal path to start with. For one thing, he never used a guitar synth to get that sound or on any of his awesome sounds so using the bagpipe preset someone put on Axechange while being a great preset for what it is, it's not going to get you that sound since no synth was used. And no, he didn't use any chorus or compression either. He used an old MXR Pitch Transposer (pitch shifter) with the pitch shifted an octive or something like that with some detuning for the distinct modulated effect he had. He combined this with some medium modulation delay via Korg SDD2000. He used sold state Fender Showman amps. These were the Fender amps Rivera designed when he was at Fender and are the best sounding solid state amps I've ever heard aside from some modelers, both in their distortion and clean sound. They have a very warm and unique sound both clean and distorted. I wish these amps were modeled in Axe Fx. His distortion came from his amps which have extensive EQing controls. He also used a duel nose gate. This is all he used to get all his great sounds until their third full album where he expanded his sound canvas a bit and added a few modulation fx.
Guitar players from the early '80s don't get nearly the respect and recognition they deserve for their very cool and unique guitar sounds they had.
Stuart Adamson of Big Country, Jamie West Oram of The Fixx, Paul Reynolds of Flock of Seagulls, Charlie Burchill of Simple Minds, etc all had awesome unique signature guitar sounds but I have yet to hear anyone reproduce their sounds accurately with the exception of one guy on youtube that reproduced the Big Country sound but he is a Big Country megafan who has duplicated all of Stewarts gear to the T. All the presets I've heard trying to duplicate these guitar players sounds don't even come close in my opinion. The funny thing is The Edge of U2 came from this stock of guitarists and I'm sure no one would duplicate his sound either had U2 vanished as a group in the lime light in the mid 80's like all these other bands did.