Why am I not getting any output signal through Output 3?

[fractalman]

Hello. I'm trying to run audio from the band through Input 3, blend it with my guitar, and output it through output 3 into a limiter (Tasty Blender) and then to my IEMs. I definitely have input -- I can see the LEDs bouncing on Input 3 on the device. I've checked all my connections for the output. The limiter is turned up. I have an output block controlled by a pedal. But, I disconnected it and still have no output. Maybe there's something obvious I'm missing? Thanks. See preset and screenshot attached.

 

[GlennO]

Assuming the meter in the out 3 block shows activity, the most common explanation is the level knob on the device is turned down.

 

[fractalman]

No, there's no activity in the meters of the Output Block. But I have signal at Input 3, according to the LEDs on the Unit -- tickling the red light. And the input 3 block is directly connected to the Ouput 3 block. So, it seems strange.

 

[fractalman]

Okay, maybe I don't have input? Please see this input block image. But, the LEDs are lighting up for Input 3 on the top of the unit.

 

[GlennO]

No, there's no activity in the meters of the Output Block. But I have signal at Input 3, according to the LEDs on the Unit -- tickling the red light. And the input 3 block is directly connected to the Ouput 3 block. So, it seems strange.

? The input 3 block in your screenshot is not directly connected to the out 3 block. It goes through a vol/pan block that has the volume turned all the way down.

 

[fractalman]

When I took the screenshot the volume pedal may have been down, but I've tried it with the volume pedal on 10 and even removed the volume block. Still no sound.

 

[GlennO]

Try turning off the noise gate. There are very few possible explanations for what you describing, so check the layout screen meters to find where the problem lies.

 

[Moke]

I am getting signal from the guitar path to Output 3 block. Vol/Pan 2 (the playback volume) was set to '0'. If I turn it up, I get signal at Output 3 meters, from my phone connected to Input 3. I need to turn the Output 3 'Level' parameter to 20 dB to match the Output 1 levels (normal for output 3)

Do you have output 3 setup correctly in your I/O menu?

 

[fractalman]

I think I have it set up correctly (see screenshot). I am able to hear audio when I set it to +20db. I didn't realize there would be that much difference. I'm having trouble getting the right balance between the band and my guitar. But, I see that it was a level problem. When I blend the band audio coming through Input 3 to the guitar coming from Input 1 and then peeling off into Input 3 at the end of the chain, I have trouble balancing the two. But, I'll keep trying. Are there any settings I'm neglecting? Thanks for your help!

 

[GlennO]

I think I have it set up correctly (see screenshot). I am able to hear audio when I set it to +20db. I didn't realize there would be that much difference. I'm having trouble getting the right balance between the band and my guitar. But, I see that it was a level problem. When I blend the band audio coming through Input 3 to the guitar coming from Input 1 and then peeling off into Input 3 at the end of the chain, I have trouble balancing the two. But, I'll keep trying. Are there any settings I'm neglecting? Thanks for your help!

I'm not sure what you're asking. I thought the problem was lack of signal at the out 3 block. But if you're instead just trying to balance the levels between an out 1 block and an out 3 block, you'll need to turn the out 3 block up 18 dB (not 20 dB).

 

[fractalman]

Thanks. I have signal it was just so low, I couldn't hear it. Actually, for Output 3 I had Sum L+R. When I changed it to Stereo, I got tons of volume. Maybe there was phase cancelling going on?

 

[Greg Ferguson]

Maybe there was phase cancelling going on?

That's always a possibility. Darn monaural signals.

 

[fractalman]

Hello. Thanks for your feedback. I changed the Output 3 block to Stereo and have lots of volume. But, I'm trying to understand something. If I bypass the Enhancer block (or remove it and rewire) before Output 3, I seem to have no straight guitar volume -- only a little tiny reverb of the guitar. Connected to Output 3 are two (L and R) TS 1/4" phone jacks going to one TRS jack (A "Y" cable") and it's plugged into a stereo jack on my "Tasty Blender" mixer, which is set to stereo. Why do I lose all the sound when I don't have the Enhance block there? It doesn't matter whether I bypass the Enhance block or remove it completely. The results are the same. Please see attached. Thanks.