FM9 Need advice for making videos with FM9

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Scented Meat

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Thanks in advance....

I'd like to record videos of myself playing (electric) guitar through my FM9 (and FRFR monitors) and singing (for my private consumption only...you can thank me later).

I have a Shure SM58 and a Macbook Pro along with a passing familiarity with Logic Pro X. I've downloaded the free version of DaVinci Resolve and I'll probably grab one of these:

https://www.amazon.com/Canon-RF-S14...rchangeable-Live-Streaming/dp/B0F258T13X?th=1

What else do I need?
 
I don't know any thing about video production, but I have a friend that does a bunch of out door camping and adventure videos. He uses his I phone and go pros for the video, but records the audio separately and edits it in on a computer. He likes to record multiple camera views at all times and mix and match the perspective. I know this is not exactly what you asked, but I would have just played live and rolled with it myself, camera audio and all.
 
I do make videos, I don't sing but I do speak in my videos, the guitar is muted when I am speaking. Are you planning to record vocals and guitars separately in different takes or in the same take? If the same, then you might get audio bleed of the guitar into the singing mic since you are using a FRFR speaker. Might make it difficult to mix later if you want to isolate your vocals. I'd run both mic and guitars into the DAW and monitor it via headphones to have clear tracks (You might have find a way to sync video and audio later in this case)

I am guessing you are using the FM9 as an audio interface for the guitars? How are you planning to record the SM58? I think you might need an audio interface as well IMO. You'd probably also need a basic tripod for the camera and basic softbox light if you are after good video quality.

Hope this helps!
 
gurtejsingh said:
I do make videos, I don't sing but I do speak in my videos, the guitar is muted when I am speaking. Are you planning to record vocals and guitars separately in different takes or in the same take? If the same, then you might get audio bleed of the guitar into the singing mic since you are using a FRFR speaker. Might make it difficult to mix later if you want to isolate your vocals. I'd run both mic and guitars into the DAW and monitor it via headphones to have clear tracks (You might have find a way to sync video and audio later in this case)

I am guessing you are using the FM9 as an audio interface for the guitars? How are you planning to record the SM58? I think you might need an audio interface as well IMO. You'd probably also need a basic tripod for the camera and basic softbox light if you are after good video quality.

Hope this helps!
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Yes I reckon I'll get something like the Apollo 4x and use that as the interface, running the FM9 stereo outs and the mic into it. I wondered how big of a problem bleed from the guitar monitors into the vocal mic will be (since I hope to do single takes for both); I suppose there's only one way to find out.
 
I feel like there are a lot of ways to do this. I'll share some of my thoughts, although I figure my preferred way of doing things is likely to be pretty specific to me.

As far as audio, you can use a hypercardioid mic and try to place it so its polar pattern rejects the monitors as best as it can. Using a good noise gate can do a lot for isolating the mic. And there are noise eliminating plugins like Supertone Clear and Klevgrand's Brusfri that might eliminate even more. I know iZotope's RX has a debleed function where you can take one track out of another, if you have both tracks available to you.

The other option is, not to worry too much. there's always bleed, and we've become increasingly more idealized in our production methods, attempting to isolate everything to squeeze the maximum out of each element. But there are a ton of classic recordings using few microphones, recorded in the same room, full of bleed.

As far as video, you could record video and audio separately, or you could try to figure out how to record them together. OBS software allows you to patch in audio and video and record them both as one file simultaneously. You could use that camera as a webcam, or grab a capture card and use the HDMI out from the camera, into the capture card, and then select the capture card's signal as the video source. There are ways to rout from your DAW to OBS as well, allowing for levels and some eq/effects. I've used this setup for live streaming music production a while back. It worked well, but it's a hassle to set up the first time. But if you set it up once, and then make a template. It'll always do the exact same thing.

Davinci resolve is excellent.
 
zedeloc said:
I feel like there are a lot of ways to do this. I'll share some of my thoughts, although I figure my preferred way of doing things is likely to be pretty specific to me.

As far as audio, you can use a hypercardioid mic and try to place it so its polar pattern rejects the monitors as best as it can. Using a good noise gate can do a lot for isolating the mic. And there are noise eliminating plugins like Supertone Clear and Klevgrand's Brusfri that might eliminate even more. I know iZotope's RX has a debleed function where you can take one track out of another, if you have both tracks available to you.

The other option is, not to worry too much. there's always bleed, and we've become increasingly more idealized in our production methods, attempting to isolate everything to squeeze the maximum out of each element. But there are a ton of classic recordings using few microphones, recorded in the same room, full of bleed.

As far as video, you could record video and audio separately, or you could try to figure out how to record them together. OBS software allows you to patch in audio and video and record them both as one file simultaneously. You could use that camera as a webcam, or grab a capture card and use the HDMI out from the camera, into the capture card, and then select the capture card's signal as the video source. There are ways to rout from your DAW to OBS as well, allowing for levels and some eq/effects. I've used this setup for live streaming music production a while back. It worked well, but it's a hassle to set up the first time. But if you set it up once, and then make a template. It'll always do the exact same thing.

Davinci resolve is excellent.
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Very helpful, thanks. Your point about classic recordings is well taken.
 
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