Knobs mapped to external: can’t move or save the position

[Tumulte]

I’ve setup a midi controller to some presets using the external 1-16.

However when the midi controller isn’t hooked up I can’t move any knobs and all the values are set to 0.

Is there a way to change that behavior ? or do I have to duplicate my presets (1 with midi and 1 without) ?

It’s quite annoying.

Thanks

 

[mr_fender]

Modifiers will always take precedence. Set the source to None to remove the modifier.

Alternatively you can set the modifier to be active in only one channel instead of all of them. Changing to a different channel in the block would then let you manually control that parameter again.

 

[Tumulte]

Ah yeah... the channel trick should do it. I don’t really get why we can’t have both (like every other device) but I doubt it will ever change.

Thanks !

 

[vangrieg]

Ah yeah... the channel trick should do it. I don’t really get why we can’t have both (like every other device) but I doubt it will ever change.

Thanks !

Yeah, that’s an incredibly annoying limitation, especially when trying to automate from a DAW or something. It’s always been here in all generations of Fractal devices.

As to why - it’s a bit tricky to do multi-way synchronization. Not rocket science, and a fairly typical programming task, but you need to avoid creating a race condition, plus there needs to be some logic determining precedence, kinda like with pedals. Given how resource constrained the hardware is and how everything of this sort is always deprioritized, I believe it’s not something they consider important.

 

[Tumulte]

Yeah, that’s an incredibly annoying limitation, especially when trying to automate from a DAW or something. It’s always been here in all generations of Fractal devices.

As to why - it’s a bit tricky to do multi-way synchronization. Not rocket science, and a fairly typical programming task, but you need to avoid creating a race condition, plus there needs to be some logic determining precedence, kinda like with pedals. Given how resource constrained the hardware is and how everything of this sort is always deprioritized, I believe it’s not something they consider important.

100%. I used a midi controller because the onboard encoders are configured to the slowest settings possible and are very annoying to use... it’s a pity neither solution work well.