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  1. jimfist

    Wish Galilean Kruger 800RB amp

    Two modes of operation on the 800: biamp and full range, via switch. Used in full range mode, it operates just like any other full range bass head. The 400 is full range only, same tone stack, but less power than the 800. I wouldn't be upset if biamping were not part of the model, but that's JMHO.
  2. jimfist

    Wish Galilean Kruger 800RB amp

    - Does a bass amp have to be also used as a guitar amp to qualify for consideration? Though the SVT may have been used by guitarists for a very limited time, I can't ever recall guitarists tripping over themselves to use an SVT rig, nor can I ever recall anyone other than bassists using a...
  3. jimfist

    Wish Galilean Kruger 800RB amp

    This has been requested a couple times over the years, and never gets traction. I don't understand why. Is it because it's a solid state amp? 4 band eq? Unique and essential Contour knob? Lack of available schematics? I don't think biamp capability is essential to the GK sound JMHO. One must...
  4. jimfist

    The 'Complete' Musician.

    Ian Anderson
  5. jimfist

    Wish Tech 21 SansAmp Bass Driver DI

    Cool! Love the BassBox! Was nice to see Atomic get in the game with a bass processor. Definitely a keeper for me.
  6. jimfist

    Wish Tech 21 SansAmp Bass Driver DI

    @BBN, Hey Jay. Not much new here. Same 5h!t, different pile. A couple gigs coming up, but still really slow. How about you?
  7. jimfist

    It's been awhile, bass frens

    Well, as they say, it is what it is. The Quad Cortex is another new entry that is clearly courting bassists. Keeping my eyes on that one.
  8. jimfist

    USPS

    I recently changed jobs after 13 years, and thus did a 401k rollover from that employer into an IRA with a preferred retirement investment firm. In doing so, the previous holder of my (significant amount) of funds had to cut a check and send it to my new financial firm via USPS (as I was later...
  9. jimfist

    It's been awhile, bass frens

    @selta as you can see from the responses, not much has changed around here WRT a push for more bass stuff, or general bass interest. Fractal is lucky to have @dr bonkers and scant few others to carry the torch for bassists. Though limited in number, his (dr b) work providing IRs for the Atomic...
  10. jimfist

    Wish Tech 21 SansAmp Bass Driver DI

    LOL. With this type of logic, it's no surprise that many bassists simply look to other modelers who aren't shy about supporting bassists, and who provide so many more staple options for bassists. V1, V2, no matter. A BDDI is long overdue.
  11. jimfist

    Wish Tech 21 SansAmp Bass Driver DI

    Why the BDDI hadn't already been added years ago is a mystery. +1
  12. jimfist

    Axe-Fx III 16.00 Beta 11 "Cygnus" Firmware - Public Beta #8

    Really curious as to whether bassists feel that Cygnus is having a noticeable impact on bass amp models girth/feel that guitarists are experiencing.
  13. jimfist

    Synth Bass Patch for Loverboy's Take Me To The Top

    Using any pitch glide in that sound?
  14. jimfist

    Bass gig with a FRFR speaker

    Yes, that's typically my gig: all types of rock, pop, R&B, dance, hard rock, metal, etc., and with players who always have been (and always will be) old-school rockers who like to air things out. I've dialed in my bass tones using the Atomic CLR, but from there my stage needs can vary depending...
  15. jimfist

    Bass gig with a FRFR speaker

    How much are you relying on the FM3 as a bass preamp for the tone, ditto for cabinet sim IRs? If the answer is "not at all", then have at it with running the FM3 into a traditional bass rig/combo. This is actually a very practical thing to do if you have a bass amp that you already like the...
  16. jimfist

    200 Motels...help understanding

    Yeah, I probably should have been more clear. Not the album, but the movie that starred Ringo Starr and Theodore Bickel. Yes, I got the gist of it. Still, the movie is way, way, out there, which is fine by me. But terribly disjointed...which I guess is part of the point it's trying to...
  17. jimfist

    200 Motels...help understanding

    I've always enjoyed and appreciated Frank Zappa. Joe's Garage and his work with Captain Beefheart are among my favorites. So I saw 200 Motels listed on amazon prime and fired it up. Woah....hmmmm....and....errr. A bit off the deep end for me, and I consider myself to have a fairly open mind...
  18. jimfist

    Question for Atomic CLR Owners

    Ditto
  19. jimfist

    Making a preamp IR

    Just curious, but are you only looking to capture the absolute clean tone of the preamp, or any drive characteristics, too? Apologies if this is a dumb question.
  20. jimfist

    Should I keep my AX8 for live bass rig?

    You should definitely sell it...to ME! 🤪
  21. jimfist

    Squirrel Resistant Bird Feeders

    Cool. I'll check that out and then I'm gonna go get the papers get the papers. ;)
  22. jimfist

    Squirrel Resistant Bird Feeders

    Will keep that in mind. Honestly, I know that rats are there....somewhere....but in all of the trapping I've done in and around my house, can't say that there are any manifest signs of a rat problem. I wonder that we have a lot of neighbors with better pickings and surroundings than we have...
  23. jimfist

    Squirrel Resistant Bird Feeders

    cool!
  24. jimfist

    Squirrel Resistant Bird Feeders

    Ok. I think I'm going with a hybrid approach for starters: lots of cheap feed on the ground near the feeder to keep the squirrels occupied, a slinky on the pole, and possibly chili pepper treated feed for the birdies. Hopefully the plentiful squirrel feed will make them less motivated to try...
  25. jimfist

    Squirrel Resistant Bird Feeders

    Thanks for the suggestions and links. Much appreciated. I now realize that we have perhaps a bigger concern with chipmunks as well as the squirrels. Keep the suggestions coming.
  26. jimfist

    Squirrel Resistant Bird Feeders

    Anyone have a tried and true bird feeder recommendation that is commonly available (north of boston/nh border) and will keep squirrels from raiding the feed? Thanks!
  27. jimfist

    Best FRFR for FM3 (Poll inside)

    I'm in the CLR camp.
  28. jimfist

    Tell me about New Hampshire

    Timely topic as we (wife and 2 teenage girls) are kicking the tires on a move out of MA to southern NH. We really, really do like where we live now, yet everything mentioned by Cliff in his last paragraph of post #41 is sort of forcing our hand to look out of state, and I don't see it getting...
  29. jimfist

    Atomic CLR for bass?

    I've a pair of original version CLR powered cabinets as well as a pair of passive cabinets. Some of its performance depends on what you need on stage, and if you need to carry a room purely from your bass stage amp. The latter may suffer a little bit from the lack of sub low frequency response...
  30. jimfist

    Wish GK bass amp(s)

    +1 Given that this has been a long standing request for many years running, one has to wonder of any of the iconic GK bass rigs will ever be represented. I hope so, but many have been disappointed thus far.
  31. jimfist

    Why does my recorded bass tone sound like a$$?

    A couple things...try dialing in the sounds in the context of your mix, not in isolation. Many things sound great in isolation that get buried when mixed. Also, how are things going with compression? One thing that you can try straight off is to make a duplicate track of the bass, and then...
  32. jimfist

    Why does my recorded bass tone sound like a$$?

    If you're up to the task and can follow what Pete Thorn is doing, that's a method which has become fairly standard issue for recording and composing bass tracks. It's a lot more work and there's a lot of tech knowledge that goes along with it vs. simply recording a single bass track. There are...
  33. jimfist

    Why does my recorded bass tone sound like a$$?

    Please continue to post what you might find, and what does/doesn't seem to be working. I'm happy to weigh in as things progress.
  34. jimfist

    Why does my recorded bass tone sound like a$$?

    Classic Geezer. He's got a lot of grindy dirt in that sound, and very present with the neck pickup, exclusively finger style playing. He's almost giving the strings a hard tap so that they ring out, and there's a lot of upper midrange in the tone, but nothing in the high end. In the 3 piece...
  35. jimfist

    Why does my recorded bass tone sound like a$$?

    The bass box is very cool indeed. All of the tools to get good bass sounds are in the AxeFx (I used the AxeFxII for years for bass), but without a fair amount of experience regarding the do's and don'ts of bass, its easy to get frustrated with all of the choices. A dedicated bass box boils...
  36. jimfist

    Why does my recorded bass tone sound like a$$?

    do any of the bass tones over here suit you? https://soundcloud.com/jimfist
  37. jimfist

    Tom Brady

    Here's an interesting article about Brady while at Michigan State. https://www.michigandaily.com/sports/michigan-alabama-flashback-teammates-reflect-tom-brady-drew-henson-battle-david-terrell’s-ris I distinctly remember the Orange Bowl game where Brady led the wolverines comeback, and being...
  38. jimfist

    Tom Brady

    Belichick had already played his cards to move on from Brady with Jimmy Garapolo. Coach hoodie has his methods and he sticks with them. It's been successful for him even when those decisions aren't popular, and I think he knows what he's doing. You could easily make the argument that Garapolo...
  39. jimfist

    Respect the Low End

    It may be because this discussion was initiated back in Jan. 2016 for the AxeFxII. Check it out: https://forum.fractalaudio.com/threads/wishlist-bass-amps-and-effects.109177/ Back then, the idea of a Sunn and an Ampeg porta-flex were being floated as new additions for bassists. Fell off the...
  40. jimfist

    New band for old-timers/Zeppelin fans: Greta van Fleet

    For certain, I'll take Great van Fleet 10x out of 10 compared to that stuff. I'm at the 'get off my lawn' stage of my life now, and there's just so little I hear that inspires. It's probably just me, though. Every so often, I'll hear something new that scratches the itch, but not enough...
  41. jimfist

    New band for old-timers/Zeppelin fans: Greta van Fleet

    I'm all for great young talent. I love Led Zeppelin. GvFleet is young. Zeppelin is old. I'd prefer to hear new young talent do something that we haven't already heard a million times. I wish them luck and hope their creative aspirations match those of their obvious idols. I'm sure they'll do...
  42. jimfist

    FCB1010 HELP!

    Here's a thread from long ago. I used the FCB1010 for many years with the AxeFxII and Ultra. If you seek only basic functions, it works fine. If you want to do more elaborate things, you'll need to spend time understanding MIDI specification and programming the pedal. It's a task, no word of a...
  43. jimfist

    Help Me Buy a Bass?

    I agree with the P-bass/Jazz bass sentiment. I personally have also had luck with Schecter Basses, specifically the Stiletto Studio Elite (4 string), though I've auditioned a number of their other active and passive models with pleasing results. Good variety of tones and reasonably priced...
  44. jimfist

    What makes more sense: FC-12 or Behringer FCB1010 for at home use only?

    At this point, it's really a matter of whether you can afford to part with the money in getting the new FC-6/12, or whether you have more time on your hands with which to jab yourself in the eyeball learning how to program the FCB1010, especially if you're a MIDI programming newb. No doubt...
  45. jimfist

    Legacy Presets AustinBuddy's 200+ BassTonePack for AX8!

    Really great to see someone addressing bass needs here. specifically regarding the AX8, it's unfortunate that this pedal is so hard to come by these days, and in the used market the prices are pretty high. I know it's too late, had this been available over the last year or so, I'd have likely...
  46. jimfist

    FCB 1010 programming

    I'd advise that you manually "wipe" clear any programming of all 10 switches in a single bank so you can start with a clean slate. It's a tedious process without an editing program, but certainly do-able. Are you comfortable getting into EDIT mode for a switch, and then navigating around the...
  47. jimfist

    FCB 1010 programming

    The key to this is in the MIDI protocol of the DMX controller, telling you what MIDI commands the unit responds to in order to change banks, scenes, and chases. Without knowing the MIDI spec for the DMX, I'd hazard to guess that you could set up the FCB1010 to have buttons change scenes, use...
  48. jimfist

    Axe-Fx III and FCB-1010 set up??

    https://forum.fractalaudio.com/threads/fcb1010-help-no-mod-no-chip.61417/
  49. jimfist

    Live bands playing along to karaoke tracks - Moral Issue?

    Oh yeah. EPIC trainwrecks!! Way back in the days of the Atari 1040ST, we'd use it running sequencer software with a rack of MIDI modules. On more than one occasion, the mouse would vibrate due to the loud volume, and run the arrow off the screen which would force the sequence to a dead STOP in...
  50. jimfist

    Does your CLR rattle when you play bass through it?

    It's good that you're in contact with Atomic and they're on the case. They'll help you get to the bottom (ahem) of it.
  51. jimfist

    Does your CLR rattle when you play bass through it?

    Is the CLR active or passive? I had an issue with one of my active CLRs (initial run), rectified on short order by Atomic. Never had an issue since. I was able to isolate the problem by running a slow, modulating frequency sweep via the AxeFX synth block. The CLR active cabinet will audibly...
  52. jimfist

    AX8 for bass rig?

    @MSP OK, there's your answer.
  53. jimfist

    AX8 for bass rig?

    This could go either way. Are you near any big box music stores where you can audition some full range powered PA cabinets with the rig? If your gigs are such that the bass will be reinforced in the PA system, then that's your best bet for getting this done with a powered full range cabinet on a...
  54. jimfist

    AX8 for bass rig?

    What's your budget? Have you ever experienced the way bass guitar sounds with cabinet simulation through a full range PA speaker or monitor? For that matter, is this your first go-around at live bass? Have you played bass live through a traditional amp?
  55. jimfist

    FCB1010 Help (No Mod/No Chip)

    Thanks for weighing in. I haven't used or programmed the AxeFXII/FCB1010 combo in over 5 years, so I'm spitballing a lot of this from memory. If I still had my rig, I'd just fire it up and see how I had both pieces configured. There are definitely a few settings to keep in mind when using this...
  56. jimfist

    FCB1010 Help (No Mod/No Chip)

    Also look at these Global Configuration settings to see how they are set up... from the owner's manual : MAPPING MODE NONE/CUSTOM This determines whether the Axe-Fx II will respond explicitly to MIDI program change messages received, or whether it will re-map incoming program change messages...
  57. jimfist

    FCB1010 Help (No Mod/No Chip)

    When you press button 6 to go back to the preset, does the AxeFx go to the preset that it is supposed to go to, or does it go to a preset that is off by one place? Check that, and if this is the case, check Global Configuration for DISPLAY OFFSET and change it. Do you have any other scenes...
  58. jimfist

    FCB1010 Help (No Mod/No Chip)

    Have you programmed all the switches on the FCB1010, or just the one switch? The tutorial has the FCB1010's bottom row of switches set up this way: button 1 = Scene 2; 2 = Scene 3; -------> button 5 = Scene 6. When you engage a preset from the top row of preset buttons (FCB1010 buttons 6...
  59. jimfist

    When did the guitar became a pariah instrument?

    to answer the OP's question....2010
  60. jimfist

    Trying to do a spillover with 2 presets

    "Both of them?" FZ
  61. jimfist

    Trying to do a spillover with 2 presets

    You may have better luck keeping the spillover effects within the same preset rather than try to get it to work the way you're doing it. The implementation of spillover reverb & echo has always been a little wonky. Utilize multiple amps and signal routings so that you can use scenes or control...
  62. jimfist

    Is CLR my best option

    I was in early on the pre-sale waiting list for an active CLR and had an odd distortion coming from one when I got it. Module was replaced at no charge, quickly, and never had a problem since. They're the only speaker I own that I consider to be a keeper, and have had many years of reliable use...
  63. jimfist

    AustinBuddy possible Bass Presets for the Axe-Fx III - what do you want to see?

    Not as sterile an amp as you might think. The Acoustic 360, 370 and 320 have a lot of personality IMO, not to mention the double 15" front loaded 406 cabinet and the iconic folded horn 361 and 371 cabinets. Some of the fattest, honkiest, beefiest modeled bass tones I've heard have been of...
  64. jimfist

    Implemented Keep new SV Bass, but PLEASE restore the old SV Bass amp model too!

    Perhaps there are some deep parameter edits that can help emulate the previous version SV Bass. As a bassist, I'm all for more bass amp models of any kind. As an SVT fan, and it being such an ubiquitous bass amp model (both the vintage Blue Line and the new Classic all tube head), you could...
  65. jimfist

    FCB1010 Help (No Mod/No Chip)

    Apologies, but it's not about the money...it's about the time, and I have little of it to spare. If you take your time and follow the instructions on this thread, you should be able to get through it. Give it a try and see if you can figure it out. There's value in the frustration in...
  66. jimfist

    Bass Players, you haven't been forgotten...

    Sounds great. Second clip is right up my alley. BTW, latest firmware added a portaflex and reworked SVT amp model. A little love goes a long way. Now I just need to find someone near me that will let me audition and AxeFxIII with my bass to see if the latest and greatest can get me back in...
  67. jimfist

    Any Bass Players using the AX8?

    Cool. Good to know there's a small format amp like this that can handle bass. Let us know how you make out.
  68. jimfist

    Any Bass Players using the AX8?

    I won't grapple with you about the Powerstage 170. Spec is as follows: POWER:170 W at 4 Ohms (https://www.seymourduncan.com/power-amp/powerstage-170) so if it is in fact seeing an 8 ohm load, you're getting a lot less than 170 solid state watts, which isn't much for bass IMHO. But if it...
  69. jimfist

    Any Bass Players using the AX8?

    what is the bass cab? What impedance? What is the exact chain of blocks in your preset? What are you running your Out 1 (w/cab sim) sound into for a speaker system, and what are its specs? In what way would you describe the bass sound not meeting your expectations for both the Out 1 and Out 2...
  70. jimfist

    Axe-Fx III and Behringer FB 1010

    Cool. Nice little update for that feature. Is this only the AxeFxIII that got the update, or do you know if the AxeFxII got this also? I've been out of the loop.
  71. jimfist

    Axe-Fx III and Behringer FB 1010

    OK, but just to be clear: if you want pedal switch 10 to toggle, you need to set the two CCs to the same number (with opposing values) for just that switch alone.
  72. jimfist

    Axe-Fx III and Behringer FB 1010

    [note: programming for STOCK FCB1010] If I recall correctly, for the FCB 1010 to toggle states from bypass to engaged, you have to use the TWO available CC commands available per button switch. Assuming button 10 is otherwise set up to transmit MIDI data on the proper MIDI channel to the...
  73. jimfist

    Any Bass Players using the AX8?

    FWIW, I gigged the AxeFxII and AxeFx Ultra for a number of years. The AX8 is the same basic feature set and quite a capable piece of gear for bass. I sold my gig SansAmp and backup as a result of using the AxeFx. Within the limitations of the stock selections for bass, you should be all set...
  74. jimfist

    Any Bass Players using the AX8?

    If going full range into "PA-type" cabinets, you have to realize that the fundamental bass frequencies and highly percussive dynamics of the instrument can cause troubles if you don't have overkill headroom or some sort of limiting on the speaker (built-in or otherwise). Of course, this is a...
  75. jimfist

    Is the Axe-Fx good for bass?

    There's no argument that FAS produces great products, and for fine editing, control of effects, and signal path routing, it is unrivaled IMHO. I've never done a demo of the Helix products, but all reports are that the modeling and effects are worthy. Certainly for live performance I think you'd...
  76. jimfist

    Is the Axe-Fx good for bass?

    You could make an educated guess, but this is the Line 6 Helix stable of modelers, starting with the $599 US 3 button pedal HX Stomp.
  77. jimfist

    Is the Axe-Fx good for bass?

    Yes, and that's great for that style of music. But what if that type of bass tone isn't appropriate for, let's say, early 1970s era Grand Funk or Led Zeppelin? A lot of time is spent dedicating amp/cab digital modeling to iconic vintage tones that were prominent decades ago. True enough, a...
  78. jimfist

    Not much love for bass regarding amps and effects?

    Yes, and much appreciated and respect to you, Sir. For those who haven't been able to wade through that thread beginning-to-end, the whole idea was left to die on the vine after about a year of contributions from bassists, with no follow-up, explanation, or further consideration from Fractal...
  79. jimfist

    Not much love for bass regarding amps and effects?

    Remember this? You wonder why bassists are touchy around here? Take a few minutes to follow the full trajectory of this thread and tell us how you'd feel as a bassist. https://forum.fractalaudio.com/threads/the-bass-preset-collection-project.70654/ Screenshot of the thread's opening post (note...
  80. jimfist

    Not much love for bass regarding amps and effects?

    Thanks for engaging. Nobody is asking for 50 of bass anything, just a handful of amps & cabinets, regularly sprinkled in over the last number of years. All good. I'm happy to let this dead horse lay beaten. For whatever the reason - no matter what it is - the history and facts remain as they...
  81. jimfist

    Not much love for bass regarding amps and effects?

    Well, the Klon thing is a bit different. There are a LOT of existing flavors of dirt/drive. Currently 37 according to Yek's Wiki. How would you like it if you had 3 or 5 drives to choose from? This is where the bass amp models sit right now. There are 5: 1 version of an SVT, 2 versions of...
  82. jimfist

    Not much love for bass regarding amps and effects?

    Better in what respect? That's great to hear...but...is there an SWR model in there now, and new UltraRes bass cabs IRs? I bought my Ultra 10 years ago. One of the main reasons was because it had an SVT model and some bass cabinet IRs. At that time, given the reputation FAS had for customer...
  83. jimfist

    Not much love for bass regarding amps and effects?

    I had prepared a rather long response on that other thread, but I've not decided whether or not to post it. Pretty much the same talking points that bassists have been making since I got my AxeFx Ultra 10 years ago. Nothing has changed or evolved in the way most view bass guitar here on this...
  84. jimfist

    Axe-Fx III in Music Radar

    It's true. Bassists have no idea what they want, need, or what is good for them...and of course "other things" are far more important.
  85. jimfist

    Not much love for bass regarding amps and effects?

    Sure, perhaps it does explain things a little, but the more I read the posts on that thread, the more it supports many of the things bassists have been complaining about: dismissiveness, narrow focus, "...if only you used your ears...", etc. Same old same old. The hole being dug just keeps...
  86. jimfist

    Axe-Fx III in Music Radar

    Hmmm. I guess I've been cowed by all of those bass amp/cab manufacturers for all of these years. I thought I was seeking and purchasing real hardware amps and cabs that had a very specific quality of tone (and drive) and ones that were clearly recognizable as signature sounds from their...
  87. jimfist

    Not much love for bass regarding amps and effects?

    Yup. As you can see from following the various "bass stuff request" threads, it's a rare occurrence to see anyone employed by Fractal chime in with support of any kind...especially MORAL support. It sorta sux when you get the feeling FAS treats these requests as though they're the plague or...
  88. jimfist

    Wish More Bass Amps

    +1
  89. jimfist

    Wish More Bass Amps

  90. jimfist

    Not much love for bass regarding amps and effects?

    I'm sure guitarists appreciate the subtle differences in the various popular and esoteric amp models that are forever being tweaked and added. Unfortunately, they've not afforded bassists anything that remotely resembles this consideration, demonstrated by the fact that there are so few bass...
  91. jimfist

    Gigging Atomic CLR users....

    Was this for the wedge CLR? I looked at the web site and didn't see a listed option for the CLR wedge, but only the "box" style CLR for $69. Or were you their first order for a wedge cover and they haven't had a chance to list it? Looks like a good deal to me.
  92. jimfist

    Midi Through XLR and Cable Length

    Sometime around 1988 I was in a techno-heavy band that performed on-the-clock with a MIDI controlled light show, keyboard sequencing, and FOH fx changes all controlled by an Atari 1040 ST on stage. We'd run this for single set opening act and headline sets that we did, and the snake to FOH...
  93. jimfist

    The III seems like a bass dream machine (or just a dream machine period).

    Well, that settles that, then. I guess we're done here.
  94. jimfist

    The III seems like a bass dream machine (or just a dream machine period).

    Oh, no doubt they HEAR the loud cries from the very, very few bassists remaining who entertain using Fractal stuff. The question is, given their limited resources for product development, how much do they CARE to indulge bassists? Fractal technology has always been capable modeling for bass...
  95. jimfist

    The III seems like a bass dream machine (or just a dream machine period).

    I like your optimism. Hopefully, you're patient and deal well with disappointment. OTOH, I hope you're right about this.
  96. jimfist

    Ooooh... Charts and Graphs

    OK. I guess. Maybe. In the land of internet trolldom, one can never be too sure. I'll stand corrected, then.
  97. jimfist

    Ooooh... Charts and Graphs

    I̶'̶d̶ ̶e̶n̶c̶o̶u̶r̶a̶g̶e̶ ̶e̶v̶e̶r̶y̶o̶n̶e̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶g̶o̶ ̶b̶a̶c̶k̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶p̶o̶s̶t̶ ̶w̶h̶e̶r̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶g̶r̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶e̶n̶t̶r̶a̶n̶c̶e̶ ̶w̶a̶s̶ ̶m̶a̶d̶e̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶d̶r̶a̶w̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶r̶ ̶o̶w̶n̶ ̶c̶o̶n̶c̶l̶u̶s̶i̶o̶n̶s̶ ̶a̶b̶o̶u̶t̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶p̶e̶r̶s̶o̶n̶ ̶p̶o̶s̶t̶i̶n̶g̶,̶ ̶W̶R̶T̶ ̶t̶o̶...
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