Yngwie at Sweetwater

Thing with Yngwie though is his fun and charming personality. When you have this man who is so humble and who has no outspoken opinions people automatically start to think very highly of him.

As for AC/DC, they just play music that is A: way more accessible to most people, after all, rock is mainstream, heavy metal is not, and B: they actually know how to write songs instead of guitar note diarrhea. As I said, if Yngwie played actual songs instead of constant solos it wouldn't half as bad. Solos should serve to enhance the song, and be as long or as short as the song requires. Not the other way around.
 
unix-guy said:
Unfortunately, most "live" albums are not raw tracks that got mixed. Many include edits, overdubs, etc to make them sound better.

Bootlegs are a different story.
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I got my first dose of this cold shower of reality on Yngwie's Live 85 concert video. At the very end of the the song Anguish and Fear, when he's gyrating against his cabs, the guitar sound doesn't even match what he's playing. He then breaks a string before the very last riff, and tries to disguise it with some acrobatics, and again the sound doesn't match the fingering. I was disappointed, but now I realize this is the reality of live albums. I'm still a fan, though. :)
 
I've seen Yngwie a few times, including around 85 and about 5 years ago, and the latter had as much energy and enthusiasm as the first. YJM was fit, trim, entertaining and full of energy, I give him a lot credit for getting back in shape, remember how bloated he got? AND, he did his old stuff almost exclusively. It was effing awesome, and I had good company too ;).

<<==Hark??!! Did somebody say Randy??

Mark-B said:
True enough! ..Oh, and Randy Rhoads too! Can't forget Randy! That guy was a sleeper in the "emotional note deployment" department.. ...That's what's to Iove about playing guitar! So many inspirational guitar players out there of every conceivable ilk... and ...I Wanna Be One When I Grow-Up! I do!!!
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Narzugon said:
Van Hagar to me was a different band musically which I do enjoy but not in the same way.
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I hear that... totally agree.
 
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So let's look at EVH and why that whole thing saddens me. Bear in mind he was one of the main reasons I picked up the guitar. The long-lasting personality effects of decades of drug and alcohol abuse resulted in:
  • The firing of Sammy and then Michael Anthony in a bizarre push toward this family unit model
    • Bringing back DLR to tour one last time (apparently) and rake in some last cash
      • Effectively ending EVH's creative career (remember "Respect the Wind" from the Twister soundtrack, and Catherine for a porn flick apparently - complex, beautiful (IMHO) instrumental pieces?) and regressing into that last bit where they were just 'doing the hits' and, from what I saw on TV and YouTube, just phoning it in.
        • Just focusing on the EVH brand now, selling gear, which is lucrative (?)
          • Establishing his kid in a career.
So basically, it's over. It's sad too, because I kinda thought he had more real music in him, but DLR is just hacking away at it and probably isn't even in the picture anymore anyway, and he's not gonna shop around for a new lead singer. I'm sure someone would take the job but that would be out of desperation, and after seeing what they did to Gary Cherone it would have to be. If I were Sammy, I'd just stick with the Tequila brand and doing Chickenfoot, because I don't think he (or the rest of the world) can take, or will even countenance, another bullshit feud with the brothers, whether its' for real or just to stoke up headlines and interest.
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Muad'zin said:
Thing with Yngwie though is his fun and charming personality. When you have this man who is so humble and who has no outspoken opinions people automatically start to think very highly of him..
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LOL! ..ahhh ...as talented as that man may be, I wouldn’t invite him to a BBQ.

...Steve Vai, now there’s another guy I think is - again, technically insane. Without a doubt an incredibly talented guitar player who is great at what he does, but, except for a song or two, his music doesn’t really reach me on an emotional level. Having said that, Steve ...sorry ..”Mr. Vai” ..”Sir” ...WOULD be a guy I Would invite to a BBQ! :cool:

Yngwie... :confused: ...umm ..no. ..no, I don’t think so. ..maybe if he had laryngitis ..maybe.. probably not though!!! :D
 
Could be fun though to have him on a BBQ, if you want things to be interesting? ;):D

Ditto on Steve Vai, exceptionally gifted guitar player, I even know a guy who has been his guitar tech in the Netherlands, but his music leaves me unmoved as well. I'm just not a big fan of instrumental music. The odd instrumental track is fine, a whole catalog full of them, not so much. Not even the best guitar playing can compete with a good set of pipes singing a well written song.
 
Desmo808 said:
I got my first dose of this cold shower of reality on Yngwie's Live 85 concert video. At the very end of the the song Anguish and Fear, when he's gyrating against his cabs, the guitar sound doesn't even match what he's playing. He then breaks a string before the very last riff, and tries to disguise it with some acrobatics, and again the sound doesn't match the fingering. I was disappointed, but now I realize this is the reality of live albums. I'm still a fan, though. :)
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They recorded 2 shows that video and used the best bits. Chalk that one down to bad editing.
 
Muad'zin said:
...The odd instrumental track is fine, a whole catalog full of them, not so much. Not even the best guitar playing can compete with a good set of pipes singing a well written song.
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Having sucked as an instrumental solo act way-back in the day, I can attest to that!! :D

...Getting back to all-that “too much” sometimes being “way too much”, again.. ;)

..Watching a Megadeth concert back in the day, and there I was watching Dave Mustaine play his many-many solos ..just ..mouth ajar, astounded. ..I don’t mind Megadeth - it’s nothing I’d want to be stranded on a desert island with, but it was more that I could almost hear a metronome playing in the background while Dave was playing. Seemed like every-single-note he hit was perfectly timed in a soup of notes which were technically strung together, perfectly. ...these are just my own personal observations and preferences here; each to their own and all opinions being as equally valid etc., but I tend to more appreciate a little more emotion and ...”lumpiness” in a guitar track.

...One of the main reasons, I suppose, why I’m always astounded by the technical players, but am always emotionally floored by the way the Gary Moores and the David Gilmours play - these are VERY emotional and lumpy guitar players. .. Hell, lumpiness is probably the reason why I don’t really like Yngwie’s perfectly played and timed studio stuff, but do really quite-like his more lumpy and emotional Live in Leningrad album!!

Hmm.. :) ... I have a thing for lumpiness, it seems! :D
 
Muad'zin said:
Could be fun though to have him on a BBQ, if you want things to be interesting? ;):D

Ditto on Steve Vai, exceptionally gifted guitar player, I even know a guy who has been his guitar tech in the Netherlands, but his music leaves me unmoved as well. I'm just not a big fan of instrumental music. The odd instrumental track is fine, a whole catalog full of them, not so much. Not even the best guitar playing can compete with a good set of pipes singing a well written song.
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Couldn’t agree more. Have nothing but respect for the man, I like everything about him (intelligent,articulate, phenomenal technique, great showman , and would probably a great BBQ guest). But try as I might, I can’t bond with his music, and I really dig instrumental music, and I have nothing against Lydian either...

I think (for me) it comes down to two things...his metronomic precision and his tone. When my buddies and I discuss great players whose tone you’d never want...he’s always at the top of the list followed closely by Randy. Still, unlike Yngwie, I always listen to whatever he puts out (at least once) and will always stop to read what he has to say.

Ironically, the first time I ever heard of Vai was because of Yngwie. He did the Blackstar transcription for the guitar player flex disc (remember those?...didn’t think so). First time I heard of Joe was in a Steve Vai interview, then saw him a week later at a small club in San Diego... funny how these things go.
 
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Same tired old shit, yawn. He was good in the 80s when this was fresh, but nowadays this is a good cure for insomnia.
 
plexi59 said:
Same tired old shit, yawn. He was good in the 80s when this was fresh, but nowadays this is a good cure for insomnia.
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Gotta laugh at these keyboard warriors and bedroom hacks trash talking Yngwie.....he's made a very very successful career out of playing the guitar and will be remembered as one of the greats of the instrument....I'm sure none of you clowns have any such claim!

What's your latest album a good cure for Mr plexi59??.....oh let me guess you don't even have an album.
 
I still remember walking into a record store in the 80s and they wrre playing the Rising Force album. I was blown away. I saw him back then, then later saw fat Yngwie, and last saw him with Ripper Owens. I'd still go see him again.

Vai I think is amazing, but at the same time, I never listen to his music, even though I own a handful of CDs. I've seen him with G3 a few times, and it's great to see him live, but I walk out of there and don't think about it until I go to another one. Same for most of the other G3 artists actually. All fantastic, but there is just so much music out there, and I have limited time to listen. I'd rather listen to Dream Theater than LTE as well.
 
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Electric Eye said:
Gotta laugh at these keyboard warriors and bedroom hacks trash talking Yngwie.....he's made a very very successful career out of playing the guitar and will be remembered as one of the greats of the instrument....I'm sure none of you clowns have any such claim!

What's your latest album a good cure for Mr plexi59??.....oh let me guess you don't even have an album.
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So you created an account here and this is your first post? Not really the best first impression. ;)

Everyone is entitled to their opinions... You don't need to be an artist to judge how that art moves you (or doesn't).
 
Electric Eye said:
...he's made a very very successful career out of playing the guitar and will be remembered as one of the greats of the instrument...
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There are a lot of people who've had successful careers that I don't like to listen to. I didn't realize that career success was the metric by which I'm supposed to know who to like. Thanks for the tip.
 
TG3K said:
There are a lot of people who've had successful careers that I don't like to listen to. I didn't realize that career success was the metric by which I'm supposed to know who to like. Thanks for the tip.
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Never said anything about having to like or listen to Yngwie's music...just find it laughable that those who'll never influence anyone with their playing, will never release an album, will never tour the world playing to thousands of fans, will never have a guitar magazine ask for an interview, will never share the stage with Satriani or Vai think they have the right to trash talk a legend of rock guitar.
 
Electric Eye said:
Never said anything about having to like or listen to Yngwie's music...just find it laughable that those who'll never influence anyone with their playing, will never release an album, ... think they have the right to trash talk a legend of rock guitar.
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I think it's called freedom of speech. One doesn't have to like it but we should all respect it.
 
Electric Eye said:
Never said anything about having to like or listen to Yngwie's music...just find it laughable that those who'll never influence anyone with their playing, will never release an album, will never tour the world playing to thousands of fans, will never have a guitar magazine ask for an interview, will never share the stage with Satriani or Vai think they have the right to trash talk a legend of rock guitar.
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'Course they have the right. If it's within forum rules, then they have the right. YOU don't think they have the right. There's differences.

You are objecting to another person's opinion by telling a person with opposing views that THEY have No Right to air their own views. ...Based on Your opinion.

My opinion, your opinion, their opinions. They're just opinions. Statements being made.. You don't have to like them. Your opinion is about as valid as anybody else's on a thing. And you're entitled to make yours known - and - I'm - sure - you - will ;). ...And as long as those opinions and statements fall within forum guidelines, you're golden.

What we are Not allowed to do here, is arbitrarily attack people for their opinions.

...I'm a BIG ABBA Fan. Do You know how much crap I had to eat being an ABBA fan growing up!!!! :oops: ... EVEN NOW I'll catch a ha'p'orth of crap for it! ...But ..People are entitled to an opinion. And either way. ...as long as it's within forum boundaries. :rolleyes: :eek: :( :D

It's not rocket science. We're aren't all being held hostage here - all being Forced to read opposing views, all being forced to agree or conform to those views... If a person doesn't like a statement - a person which is all growed-up mind-you - then they can easily skip over a thing and move happily along.

We don't need to resort to asinine, petty, or personal attacks.

Electric Eye said:
Obviously all your adoring fans found it!
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How would you know? You don't know these people, I don't. Not really. Having lurked here for a couple of years before signing up I DO Know that there are a LOT more talented people on this forum than me - I know that!!! ...So ...??? ...how would you or I know to which degree a forum member influences others? Or how many a member has played in front of? How many they have taught those who do hold them in high regard?

...Best not to make assumptions on that one then. On this forum? This crowd? .. You just might have wildly swung at the next Petrucci, or early influence and teacher of said phenom "type".

ChristThePhone said:
I think it's called freedom of speech. One doesn't have to like it but we should all respect it.
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This forum being associated with a private enterprise, we have freedom of speech under forum rules I think. :D .. for as long as that holds out. :D
 
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