Your current fav Marshallesque amps?

Chewie5150

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Yes yes another Marshall discussion but with recent FW updates and some additional models I've been creating a master preset that has my favorite Marshall-esque models. currently my preset is like this: 1959 SLP; Plexi50W 6Ca7; Brit 800#34; Dirty Shirley; JMP-1; HBE CE45

I'm finding as I'm auditioning these models I'm less enamoured wiht the 59 SLP that I used to love. It's feeling flubby/mushy but again i can't compare that to an HBE that is tighter.

What I'm thinking of giving (another shot): JS410; Plexi 2204; Brit Silver

What is your absolute go to fav like top 2-3 Marshall models??

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Also, how many of you tend to change the Tone Stacks? if so, for which models do you like doing this to?
 
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The Splawn Quickrod model has a great Marshall hotrod tone, really tight. The Revv purple 1 with the gain around 4 has a great Marshall tone as well. The JVM orange OD-1 is another great Marshall, but it has an insane amount of gain, it will sound over compress unless you set the gain around 1-2, and keep the master lower as well, around 3. The Camerons are other great Marshalls variations, really I don't think there is one flavor of the classic and modern British tone not cover with all the amp models available.
 
The studio 20 an 6CA7 are great. The Quickrod and Cornford are awesome for higher gain stuff. The FAS Express can also sub for most Marshall models and will generally be better IMO.
 
I am head over heels for the Splawn q-rod. 1 something for Plexi style things and two something for hi-gain (hot rodded and beyond) Marshall tones
 
+1 for the 1970. I'm pretty sure it's the highest gain model we have from an actual Plexi.

I love the Dirty Shirley, really all the various Friedmans, the Splawns. For Friedmans I do tend to crank the MV to get rid of the darkness. The Hook can be cool in the lower gain settings if I really spend some time on the BMT.

I personally like the SLP best for actual Plexis because it has so much low end. You can always brighten it just by dialing back the Treble Gain knob. So versatile. Put the OCD HP or Butler 3 knob in front and there's nothing you can't do.

What I'm learning is that, for versatility, Marshall really has something for everyone; it's just a matter of what you need at that moment.
 
+1 for the 1970. I'm pretty sure it's the highest gain model we have from an actual Plexi.

I love the Dirty Shirley, really all the various Friedmans, the Splawns. For Friedmans I do tend to crank the MV to get rid of the darkness. The Hook can be cool in the lower gain settings if I really spend some time on the BMT.

I personally like the SLP best for actual Plexis because it has so much low end. You can always brighten it just by dialing back the Treble Gain knob. So versatile. Put the OCD HP or Butler 3 knob in front and there's nothing you can't do.

What I'm learning is that, for versatility, Marshall really has something for everyone; it's just a matter of what you need at that moment.
I saw in another thread where you posted about cranking the MV in some of the HBE models. I tried that last night in fact. Im still unsure at times about correct MV settings for various models though there are no rules i know...and I struggle to keep up to the changes that new FW bring. a new FW comes out and users be saying 'yeah so now I change my MV setting to 'xyz' when before it was 'zyx'
 
The Splawn Quickrod model has a great Marshall hotrod tone, really tight. The Revv purple 1 with the gain around 4 has a great Marshall tone as well. The JVM orange OD-1 is another great Marshall, but it has an insane amount of gain, it will sound over compress unless you set the gain around 1-2, and keep the master lower as well, around 3. The Camerons are other great Marshalls variations, really I don't think there is one flavor of the classic and modern British tone not cover with all the amp models available.
No lies here. Came here to say pretty much the same thing. 👌🏼
Side note: personally do not agree with MV's defaulting to 4 or 5. Around 2 seems more in line to what would really be happening in real life, on stage, etc. I run most of my amps at 2 and bump the level up to compensate. The Saturation switch set on IDEAL helps too.
 
I saw in another thread where you posted about cranking the MV in some of the HBE models. I tried that last night in fact. Im still unsure at times about correct MV settings for various models though there are no rules i know...and I struggle to keep up to the changes that new FW bring. a new FW comes out and users be saying 'yeah so now I change my MV setting to 'xyz' when before it was 'zyx'

When I first started doing this I would generally take the MV to 8 or 9 on a Friedman and reduce the gain knob to compensate, then I'd use a movable mic sim (the DynaCab is of course the best option now, but I used to use Overloud TH-U, Wall of Sound, and Amplitube 4 (whose cab sound I tend to favor over the more reflection heavy Amplitube 5) for this) to find a spot for two misaligned mics on the same cab that smooth the mids and highs to be pleasing, with whatever character I wanted at the moment. More recently I've gone to about 6 on the MV, keeping higher gain on the preamp, and I've even created some tones with lower MVs on bright IR mixes. I can't stress enough that changing your mic position is essential when you mess with MV, because of course your whole frequency range can change. Your sweet spot on the speak then changes too, and it very likely might not be the same as your initial position. If your working with legacy IRs, I'd then audition ones that are captured at different positions, but I'm most in favor in that instance of taking two different mic IRs, misaligning them in the cab block, putting the thicker sounding mic 3 - 15 dB lower in the mix (giving you a very wide range of present but not harsh mids), and continually tweaking alignment (on the front panel for that one parameter, for much greater fine tune control) as well as the level of the second mic, until your mids are just right. Once your mids are right, the rest is easy, just hit the bass and treble until they do whatever you need: if you're in a mix (live or studio), lower the bass until you have plenty of room for your bassist and the kick drum(s), or if you're just practicing on your own, crank the bass until your balls rattle. For the highs I like then to see what they're actually doing. With a lot of presets I've made, I've found the treble and presence controls really to be affecting high mids, so I'm really careful about noting when either control seems to be the source of harshness that I can't control. If I really wanted a treble and presence stack that I can fully take advantage of, movable mics sims with two out of alignment mics are my favorite way to get there really quickly.

I think proper MV values are totally contextual, like all of audio engineering; on top of that, I think there's always room for creative use of wrong settings too, like all of audio engineering. I mean, for a while I played with the 5150 and 5150-II lead channel models with the MV up really really high, and it was awesome! If you take the lows out with the bass and depth to zero, I found really really badass hard rock tones, the kind of amp so many cock rock gunslingers would've killed for in 80s. The thing with 5150s are this inherent mid scoop, but the MV will get rid of that in a second, if you're careful to control the bass. The inherent mid scoop of course makes them ideal for metal, especially with an OD, but it's easy to forget how great they are in a rock context too.

But to me the very best way to get ideas about settings if you're stuck is to find YouTube demos of the real amps. Since you already have the best and most accurate modeler, you can dial in where a video is set then compensate for potentiometer variance as well as your guitar by ear. I use this kind of thing to ground me so I can have a fixed goal then abandon the tone hunt in favor of playing haha. But you may not need an external force like that to discipline you! I would just search for videos where the player really knows good tone and has tone in their fingers too, to give you an idea of what to go for, and you'll see what MV it takes with the real deal. Anyway, this is just one way to go.
 
@Budda I just set up a Plexi preset with all of the Plexi's as you described. The 1970 is awesome but doesn't clean up like the 1959 IMO. At least not where I've got the gain set on the 1970. I'd been screwing around between all the 'pure' Plexi models and recently added the Brit Brown and my #1 fave - Brit Super to that preset so I could go between all of them. The Brown has the same tone as the 1959 but much more flexibility. In Yek's amp guide it even says, the Brown is the 1959 'tricked out' so that makes total sense. But I keep coming back to the Brit Super. Because I can get the gain and clean tone without any OD, Variac or pushing the input and it sounds like where I'm trying to push the other Plexi models to. That is a VH, G. Lynch like gain (that's my era). I CAN get all of the amp models to do that but they need a little tweaking.

All that being said, the Revv model I tried was instant tone without any tweak.

The Plexi's are just fun to play with.
 
Yes yes another Marshall discussion but with recent FW updates and some additional models I've been creating a master preset that has my favorite Marshall-esque models. currently my preset is like this: 1959 SLP; Plexi50W 6Ca7; Brit 800#34; Dirty Shirley; JMP-1; HBE CE45

I'm finding as I'm auditioning these models I'm less enamoured wiht the 59 SLP that I used to love. It's feeling flubby/mushy but again i can't compare that to an HBE that is tighter.

What I'm thinking of giving (another shot): JS410; Plexi 2204; Brit Silver

What is your absolute go to fav like top 2-3 Marshall models??

Edit:
Also, how many of you tend to change the Tone Stacks? if so, for which models do you like doing this to?
I like to the Brit Silver a lot after recent update
Also the 2203 , The JVM orange OD 1, SV20, FAS Hotrod , Atomica

Yes I have changed tonestacks for sure

The DRZ. maz to a Liverpool wrecker to imitate the Zwreck Brad Paisley amp

The SLO w the JCM800 to do a Hughes and Kettner Triamp

HBE w plexi stack
 
Sounds fantastic ! Wich ir are you using?
Thanks! It’s the Legacy 103, 4x12 Basketweave TV Mix. Never heard the need for 3rd party IRs with the Fractal units, I’m very content with the factory stuff. Transformer mic pre cranked up till just below clipping. Obviously I double tracked the parts, I tend to do that when doing A/Bs because otherwise it’s easy to confuse differences between takes as differences in the gear.

The metal riff is a tweaked factory USA Mk V preset, the day tripper riff is one of the AC30 style amps, probably the AC20. Wasn’t really trying to super nail any of the original album tones, this was more just for me to see if I could duplicate the tones from a much more expensive LP with a much cheaper Revstar (I kept the revstar, haha).
 
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2203 High Input. Same as my favourite physical amp, and is now an exact workalike in the Axe FX III. Mainly with relatively low output Gibson humbuckers.

I tend to flick between all the others relatively interchangeably for other pickups. There aren't any "bad" Marshall or Marshallesque models in the Axe FX III. We really seem to be pretty spoilt for choice of accurate and validated versions of most of them that I view as worth having.

Liam
 
@Bman i think you meant @Chewie5150 but Im all in haha.

I will do a forum search as i dont remember the 1959/1970 differences. I have what iirc is a dimed 1595 preset from when i had my 50s standard goldtop and it still sounds awesome.
 
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