an easy way to compare is just copy your settings into the "Y" slot of whatever block you're editing. then go back to "X" and tweak. to hear what the original sounded like, just pop over to "Y". if you can't get it better, you can always copy "Y" over to "X" and start again.
Great idea, thanks Simeon! Little short-cuts like that are where I'm lacking right now. I know I have a ton to learn, but have been at it since Tuesday afternoon between recording clients. I think I have a pretty good jump start so far. Thankfully my last pre-amp was extremely intimidating when it came to programming it....so I'm used to learning curves and trial and error.
Oi!! DD! know you from guitarblast,chaos forums [me jimbop or slicer]
ive only got the ultra [sniffle] but if you get to grips with the axe II, and going from your past contributions/help with mixing etc....you will be a MASSIVE aid for axe II tone seekers!
seriously, if you stay with the II, im sure you could influence additions for the III and push me to upgrade from the ultra!
hope you hang in there dan,
jim.
Yo Jim! Good to hear from you bro. Yeah, I'm not giving up. My 2101 took about 6 weeks before I totally understood how thr algorithms worked. Easy to edit, incredibly hard to create patches from the ground up as you know from our talks on 6sh. So I'm all for learning this thing and not jumping to ANY conclusions at this point. For sure I'll do whatever I can to influence, help out, share, whatever it takes. I just hope people don't get sick of me once I start sharing patches and other cool things. Hahaha!
Here's a one stop shop for firmware, etc
Index of /public/AxeFX Files
Awesome thanks so much for this! Will check that out for sure.
Hey Danny! Small world eh? What Simeon said. Don't be too quick to write off others' patches, you can learn alot from very different approaches. Early days, I think you'll find what you're looking for, just be patient... and take advantage of the huge amount of great tips in old forum posts and the wiki.
Hi vesta, small world for sure. It's kinda cool to know a few people on here. Seems like and awesome community and I so can't wait to give back. Nah I didn't mean to sound like I was writing off other peoples patches. My own personal thing is...I learn from jumping in head first. In my experience (with myself as well as others at times) when something is provided for me/them, it can make us lazy and sort of stop your creativity from happening. I like to look at other peoples patches to get ideas....look and listen to what something sounds like in that spot, look into the configuration etc.
But another thing that sort of goes against me is....I'm horribly under the gun these days. My studio's (thank you God) are insane with work as well as my own stuff going on and a little cover band on the side. So it would be all too easy for me to grab some patches and just go with them, tweak them to my taste and move on. But I really want to learn this thing and create my own. At the expense of not bringing it out for my next gig, I'd rather get it down with my own patches and learn it. I'm working in the studio these days from 6 pm until 9-10 am the next day just about 7 days a week. So for sure I'll take an easy way out if I allow myself. LOL!!
I agree, I've been wondering about if there is a compare button.
Copying X to Y and editing Y seems like a solution albeit extra work and defeating using it for two settings.
With most AMP blocks I end up adding a Drive block to get into high gain territory but often wonder where is the high gain? It falls short.
I'm not a warm tube tone blues guy, I come from a school of
EVH, Vinnie Vincent, YJM, JP, Lynch, Randy Rhoads, Ronni Le Tekro, John Sykes...
Btw - dannydanzi - listening to songs on your myspace page, cool songs and top notch playing/tone/chops!
Rexx, I've found that pushing the compression level (if you have a comp in your chain) adds some nice high gain. I'm not crazy about most of the "drive" in the stomps. Either gain boost in the amp, or "level" from the comp on a driven amp usually works for me. I come from the same school as you brother...all the same players. I just wish I would have stolen more from them. LOL! Thanks for the kind words, I really appreciate that.
Welcome Danny, from a fellow New-Jerseyan and Axe-Fx fanatic. I think it is safe to say that you will never see a 12AX7 in an Axe-Fx. It would be totally incongruous to the core philosophy. Speaking for myself, I can't hear the need for it.
COMPARE has long been slated for Axe-Edit as a build-out of the "SNAPSHOT" feature. It won't be in the initial release of 3.0, but given how things are moving quickly along on this project, it could be added to a future version. We've also talked at times about having the program keep a log of edits, like the photoshop "History" but this would be farther out if it makes the roadmap at all.
Hi M@: Thanks for the reply. Ah you're from NJ also? North or South? I'm in South in between Philly and Atlantic City. I had a feeling there would be more of a "compare" at some point. Nice to know it may show up at some point. Understood on the pre-tube thing. How about at least more options to control the actual pre-amp section? Like tube selection and tweaks for pre's amp tubes etc? Ever mess around with Revalver MK? They have this pre-amp tube tweak that's sort of like our power tube tweak. Would be cool to have these choices as they really made a nice difference for me in this plug as far as the 12AX7 voicing goes. Maybe over-kill, but heck, we got everything else with the Axe.
Thanks for the reply and the welcome.
One thing that I do when I make a change is just save a preset of it right next to the one I am changing. This way you can easily bounce back and fourth between the two.
Thanks Mark, as noted, I'll definitely be messing with this.
I agree, there is nothing a 12AX7 could contribute to the Axe FX at this point.... there have been countless processors that have a built in tube, just to disappoint on their tone...
I have to peacefully disagree with you there Nicolas. Having used 12AX7's my whole life either with tube power amps or tranny power amps, the 12AX7 front end makes a HUGE difference to *me*. I think the Axe could definitely benefit from having a bit more pre-tube sound in more of the models. Some of these patches even with a little work, just sound like a transistor delivery to me. See, you mention countless processors....the one's you're probably referring to have the tube in it, but don't really run it correctly in the chain. I could rattle off several that use this "hype" technology. Honest when I tell you, just because something has a 12AX7 doesn't mean it's USING the 12AX7 correctly the way an amp or a good pre-amp like the TriAxis would...or even the front end on a Dual Recto. I don't want to name any names in case any manufacturers hang on this forum...but honest, I can name quite a few that are so solid state sounding, the only thing the tube does is "light up". Again, don't get me wrong...I'm not bashing the Axe or trying to start any confrontations. I just felt that the majority of the tube models sounded great and sounded like what they were supposed to sound like, BUT were missing the 12AX7 impact I have come to enjoy from my tube rigs and tube pre's I've enjoyed for many years. That said...some tube front ends sound horrible and we're better off using solid state. Not all tube rigs are good.
I believe if you work hard at it you will be able to capture the sound your after with the Axe FX, just put some time in.
I'm willing to do it Mark. I've been at it non-stop since Tuesday...so I'm giving it my all and am not one bit disappointed.
I think it's just in your head... some people fear change and just refuse to believe they are getting all they can when not using the real thing.
Nah dp, I'm up for change and welcome it, honest. This thing sounds as good as the real thing (in more ways than it doesn't) there's just something missing in the delivery and harmonic value that I've only been able to get with 12AX7's. Axe gets it super close...close enough to where I'm cool with it. BUT...it doesn't do it on enough tube voicings is what I'm saying. There are amps that don't sound like they have a tube front end. They sound like a model of the real amp in transistor form on the majority. I'm not complaining, honest.
Hi Danny, welcome!
Have you tried the Triaxis models? You probably already know this, but the Triaxis is a 12AX7-based preamp, and the Axe II does an amazing job of reproducing that tone. Check it out! :encouragement:
Hi mrstrat, thank you! Which ones are they? I didn't see anything that actually said "TriAxis"...then again, I can barely read the names on the screen and just go through them one at a time until I find an amp voicing I like...then I edit, then I mess with cabs, mic's etc...most times I'm just switching things until it sounds good and when it does, then I get my magnifying glass so I can write down that voicing and combo. Hahahaha! Then I back it up.
You all have been super friendly and helpful. Thanks so much again for taking part, I really do appreciate it all and in spite of some of my opinions, honestly come in peace and will do my best to get the best out of my Axe. Thanks again.
