More PRS models…💯

[GitGuy513]

Apologies to OP for being out of topic. But does other Lp copies like Edwards and Tokai ,to name a few, suffer from the same issue as Gibson headstock breaking off?

No apologies needed. It’s a good question. Until @Andy Eagle showed those cross sections I never realized how bad that area really is and only ever saw the consequences.

 

[Vhalen50]

Couple notes.

-The NF are 5 conductors so you can do a lot of customization.
-uses a 5 way super switch (assumed but confirmed)
-the “push pull hi cut” is a cap and resistor to somewhat. Haven’t checked values. It’s also incredibly subtle for anything but a very high gain sound.
-very full neck. Wider than a SS but similar thickness.
-doesn’t sound like a telecaster. But does have spank but that’s more because of the narrowfields I’d say than a brass saddle.
-Neck NF is like if a Strat neck had ass. Could be good for you. Could be bad. Not super glassy or deep.
-split coil sounds are great but I may rewire it to the way I prefer a 5 way 2 hum to be.
-grain of the ash can be seen through the paint

 

[Joe Bfstplk]

Couple notes.

-The NF are 5 conductors so you can do a lot of customization.

Good to know. Was trying to get through 2023 without any NGDs. This info is going to make that more difficult....

-Neck NF is like if a Strat neck had ass. Could be good for you. Could be bad. Not super glassy or deep.

Sounds like fun. With the 5 wires, parallel is an option that would change up the neck pickup for less bottom and output....

-split coil sounds are great but I may rewire it to the way I prefer a 5 way 2 hum to be.
-grain of the ash can be seen through the paint

I tend to like a 5 way with series and 1/2-OOP in the notch positions. 1/2-OOP can work for some of the stuff middle+bridge on a Strat does to give a slightly different flavor....

 

[Vhalen50]

Good to know. Was trying to get through 2023 without any NGDs. This info is going to make that more difficult....



Sounds like fun. With the 5 wires, parallel is an option that would change up the neck pickup for less bottom and output....


I tend to like a 5 way with series and 1/2-OOP in the notch positions. 1/2-OOP can work for some of the stuff middle+bridge on a Strat does to give a slightly different flavor....

I always preferred to have a coil tap bridge with resistor on a push pull. Then I have a few more options.
1. Bridge
2. Bridge and neck inner Coil
3. Both hum
4. Neck outer coil
5. Neck hum

That way I get 3 extra sounds from a push pull and I get a single coil neck. Requires a 5 way super switch so it’s all there, but I’m running the stock way for now. Only thing I’ve planned to do is replace the treble bleed because I prefer a parallel cap and resistor vs the low cap PRS always uses.

 

[Joe Bfstplk]

I always preferred to have a coil tap bridge with resistor on a push pull. Then I have a few more options.
1. Bridge
2. Bridge and neck inner Coil
3. Both hum
4. Neck outer coil
5. Neck hum

That way I get 3 extra sounds from a push pull and I get a single coil neck. Requires a 5 way super switch so it’s all there, but I’m running the stock way for now. Only thing I’ve planned to do is replace the treble bleed because I prefer a parallel cap and resistor vs the low cap PRS always uses.

That's a nice set of choices.

I updated my Violet Custom 24 so the neck(split) + bridge(HB) position now gives outside coils. Absolutely amazing improvement!

I wonder how much diff inside coil vs. outside coil makes on narrow field pickups, tho. They are so skinny, it's probably not a huge change. Lower output pickups like Tele singles do nicely with the series linkage, tho, so that and 1/2-OOP will go in mine when I probably eventually get an RF53, rather than a riff on the CU24 setup....

My red Fender Tele has a SD Jazz neck pickup, and the original Twisted Tele (sounds a bit Strat-y) in the middle, so the notches have 1/2-OOP and Middle+Bridge instead....

 

[GitGuy513]

Couple notes.

-The NF are 5 conductors so you can do a lot of customization.
-uses a 5 way super switch (assumed but confirmed)
-the “push pull hi cut” is a cap and resistor to somewhat. Haven’t checked values. It’s also incredibly subtle for anything but a very high gain sound.
-very full neck. Wider than a SS but similar thickness.
-doesn’t sound like a telecaster. But does have spank but that’s more because of the narrowfields I’d say than a brass saddle.
-Neck NF is like if a Strat neck had ass. Could be good for you. Could be bad. Not super glassy or deep.
-split coil sounds are great but I may rewire it to the way I prefer a 5 way 2 hum to be.
-grain of the ash can be seen through the paint

I just realized this is the guitar you ordered. Congrats!! I forgot you were waiting for it. Thanks for the specs.

 

[nathan_393]

Couple notes.

-The NF are 5 conductors so you can do a lot of customization.
-uses a 5 way super switch (assumed but confirmed)
-the “push pull hi cut” is a cap and resistor to somewhat. Haven’t checked values. It’s also incredibly subtle for anything but a very high gain sound.
-very full neck. Wider than a SS but similar thickness.
-doesn’t sound like a telecaster. But does have spank but that’s more because of the narrowfields I’d say than a brass saddle.
-Neck NF is like if a Strat neck had ass. Could be good for you. Could be bad. Not super glassy or deep.
-split coil sounds are great but I may rewire it to the way I prefer a 5 way 2 hum to be.
-grain of the ash can be seen through the paint

In general what do you think? Priced well for the value, nicer than just buying a Tele and modding it, etc?

 

[Vhalen50]

In general what do you think? Priced well for the value, nicer than just buying a Tele and modding it, etc?

Priced about what you’d get for a PRS for these features. Core models are 5 grand and if you don’t think those are worth the cash, you’d think the same of this.

I wouldn’t really compare it to a telecaster unless you put like a JB jr and a Lil59 in. If you like fenders, this won’t sway you to PRS. But if you like PRS, it’ll feel like home but give you a new approach to sounds.

Overall I’m happy with it. I think the Myles model definitely is more toward the people who want a little more omph in their sound while the NF53 might be closer to comparing to a Fender ultra tele or something.

 

[Vhalen50]

That's a nice set of choices.

I updated my Violet Custom 24 so the neck(split) + bridge(HB) position now gives outside coils. Absolutely amazing improvement!

I wonder how much diff inside coil vs. outside coil makes on narrow field pickups, tho. They are so skinny, it's probably not a huge change. Lower output pickups like Tele singles do nicely with the series linkage, tho, so that and 1/2-OOP will go in mine when I probably eventually get an RF53, rather than a riff on the CU24 setup....

My red Fender Tele has a SD Jazz neck pickup, and the original Twisted Tele (sounds a bit Strat-y) in the middle, so the notches have 1/2-OOP and Middle+Bridge instead....

You’re correct in that the inside vs outside coil is prob nothing of any sort of importance.

 

[Andy Eagle]

Apologies to OP for being out of topic. But does other Lp copies like Edwards and Tokai ,to name a few, suffer from the same issue as Gibson headstock breaking off?

They often use a modern truss rod with an allen key nut, this requires a far smaller access and is a lot stronger but anything with an authentic vintage rod and no scarf joint is going to be as weak as the Gibson . The insane 17 degree head angle doesn't help and the fact that any Gibson falling flat on it's back will hit the head first due to the geometry.