nicolasrivera
Fractal Fanatic
NopeI'm afraid we're getting close the release of a new product...
NopeI'm afraid we're getting close the release of a new product...
Hey 'EmI'm not the poster who posted the post you quoted in you post, the poster who posted the post you quoted in your post was Joshua_L.
afraid?I'm afraid we're getting close the release of a new product...
We already know that the engineer working on the FM3 was on sick leave for a while. Also, they need to consider what compromises need to/should be made when porting features to the FM3.To be fair, from a software engineering perspective, you generally fix bugs and make enhancements to the devices with the largest populations and then go from there. I think it depends on what percentage of their customers are on the FM3 vs others. If they were just getting the FM9 Turbo Mark II prepped, that was likely taking a lot of resources.
not necessarily - since FM3/9 are in some ways, scaled down versions of Ax3, it would make perfect sense to implement changes on Ax3 1st regardless of # of users on each platform.To be fair, from a software engineering perspective, you generally fix bugs and make enhancements to the devices with the largest populations and then go from there.
I think that people who need something smaller in order to put in a backpack, then buy other devices. FM9 MK2 looks great and has outstanding performance, but has not a portability for everyone.If it wasn't practically possible to bring gapless to FM3, that would be one thing.
But gapless is the first feature that could possibly disincentivize someone from getting FM9 over FM3.
I doubt Fractal would intentionally withhold a feature from FM3 for business reasons (I've seen no history of this).
Just a thought.
Wait a minute...Thanks! However, I speculate that the FM3 is on it's last legs, they will abandon the latest update because they just can't be bothered to finish it and a new, much more powerful product will be coming out S O O N and it will cost less than the FM3 and everyone will make fun of us FM3 owners.
On Fractal's devices, the FX3 is Cliff's environment for development, so the majority of changes roll down from there. (We've occasionally seen some things start on one of the FM* units and move up.) The FM* developers then begin porting to their hardware. The hardware is different between the two units, and the FM3 is a tighter fit so it might involve some hand-coding in assembly language.To be fair, from a software engineering perspective, you generally fix bugs and make enhancements to the devices with the largest populations and then go from there. I think it depends on what percentage of their customers are on the FM3 vs others. If they were just getting the FM9 Turbo Mark II prepped, that was likely taking a lot of resources.
[45] The Axe-Fx III, FM3 and the other products in development all use the "Ares" architecture. This is a portable client-server architecture that allows easy porting of effects and models between hardware platforms. When we ported the Axe-Fx III models to the FM3 it involved nothing more than copying the file. We created the Ares architecture three years ago and all new products use it. It's a comprehensive hardware and software paradigm that allows any number of clients to communicate with a DSP server. The architecture supports multiple DSP cores. Clients can be located on the same core, a different core on the same IC, a different IC on the same board or on completely different hardware, i.e. an editor running on a PC or a foot controller. For example on the FM3 the UI is a client running on the ARM core. The Ares architecture is even processor agnostic. The Axe-Fx III uses TI DSPs while the FM3 uses Analog Devices. The Ares architecture was a huge undertaking with the ultimate goal of faster product development and easy synchronization of multiple product lines. It allows me to work on algorithms and new models and the engineers can then easily port those to the other products.
This is another case of mistaken identity. However, I am very confident that Fractal has to enter the Pro-Soomer™ space to stay competitive. Whether that's with an FM6-style product or not, who's to say?Wait a minute...
Are you the "Fractal needs to make a FM6 to compete w the Ampero" guy? LOL
Ok but the real problem about this, is when you own both axe 3 and fm3, and cannot put your axe 3 presets in the fm3…… that’s something they need to fix in the future. To me, All the products need to have the firmware the same day
I suggest they're already well entrenched there with the FM units.I am very confident that Fractal has to enter the Pro-Soomer™ space to stay competitive. Whether that's with an FM6-style product or not, who's to say?
[1] The entire product line was conceived years ago. The goal was to maximize the number of parts shared between products.
The footswitch PC boards do three switches each. An FM3 has one board. An FC6 has two. An FM9 has three and an FC12 has four.
All products use the same LCDs, encoders, side plates, etc., etc. This reduces cost and repair inventory. The FC6 and the FM3 are basically the same enclosure. The FC12 and FM9 are basically the same enclosure.
This isn't a huge market. Margins are thin so you have to think of ways to minimize development and product costs. Parts bin methodology is the route we took on this generation.
Don’t know, to me they should have the update the same day.So wouldn't the solution be to just not update your III until the equivalent update is available for the FM3? That's the same net effect as FAS releasing updates for each concurrently. Unless you think FAS should sit on updates for the III until they have the FM3/FM9 ready. Or are you wanting FAS to rearchitect and resource their engineering and testing processes to accommodate parallel development, because you can't seem to stop yourself from installing the latest, greatest on your III?
Yet again I failed to be obvious with my joking. I should probably stop posting now.I suggest they're already well entrenched there with the FM units.
A "FM6-style" unit doesn't fit their methodology because it would be a one-off chassis:
I think the problems in your life must be very small.Ok but the real problem about this, is when you own both axe 3 and fm3, and cannot put your axe 3 presets in the fm3…… that’s something they need to fix in the future. To me, All the products need to have the firmware the same day
Don’t know. That’s a forum hm. Everyone say their opinion and wishes etc. I don’t think that what I say is stupid.I think the problems in your life must be very small.![]()
/ (ˈpænɪkˌmʌŋɡə) /I know that the III and FM9 treatment is coming. Just curious if this was longest space between updates for the FM3? Last was mid August.