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Wish Channel Tags: Description for all channels with small storage

jordikt

Experienced
It's difficult to remember what is the configuration of every channel of every block. The more complex is the preset, more difficult to remember it.

The obvious solution is allow the user to enter a text description for every channel of every block.

The ability of writing notes has been wished a lot of times, but it hasn't be implemented. After reading several threads, it seems that the main problem is the storage of data text in the FM3/AXE, because there is not enough memory.

Maybe the following system of tags can be a solution. The storage would be very small, and the user could assign tags very fast and easily.

I try to explain it as good as I can:

TWO TYPES OF TAGS

Factory Tags (not editable)
User Tags (editable)

THREE GROUPS OF TAGS

Amp Tags for Amp Blocks
Cab Tags for Cab Blocks
FX Tags for the rest of blocks

FOUR HASHTAG VARIABLES

#AMP
#CABS
#FX
#theOtherChannels
#AMP
takes the short name of the amp model of the channel of the AMP blocks
#CABS takes the short names of the cabs unmuted of the channel of the CAB blocks
#FX takes the short name of the effect of the block (for example #FX="DRV" for Drive blocks)
#theOtherChannels takes the letters of the channels not active (if you are in Ch.B, then #theOtherChannels="A, C, D")

AMP TAGS - MENU LIST

#AMP
#AMP CLEAN
#AMP CRUNCH
#AMP OVERDRIVE
#AMP DISTORTION
#AMP CLEANER THAN>*
#AMP DIRTIER THAN>*
#AMP WITH HIGHER VOLUME THAN>*
#AMP WITH LOWER VOLUME THAN>*
#AMP PANNED TO>**
USER>***

CAB TAGS - MENU LIST

#CABS
#CABS WITH HIGHER VOLUME THAN>*
#CABS WITH LOWER VOLUME THAN>*
#CABS PANNED TO>**
USER>***

FX TAGS - MENU LIST

LIGHT #FX
MEDIUM #FX
HARD #FX
NO #FX (BYPASSED)
MORE #FX THAN>*
LESS #FX THAN>*
#FX WITH HIGHER VOLUME THAN>*
#FX WITH LOWER VOLUME THAN>*
#FX PANNED TO>**
USER>***

SUBMENUS FOR AMP TAGS, CAB TAGS AND FX TAGS

*cleaner, dirtier, more fx, less fx, higher and lower volume show this submenu:
Ch.A: tag of the channel
Ch.B: tag of the channel
Ch.C: tag of the channel
Ch.D: tag of the channel
#theOtherChannels
**"Panned to" option shows this submenu:
Left
Center
Right
***User menu shows a submenu with all the tags entered by the user

TWO LOCATIONS FOR CHANNEL TAGS

LOCATION A
Marked in green, this field is currently showing the Channel and the Amp of the active scene, with an (i) circled at the beginning.
I propose to change the (i) for the Tracking icon of the scene manager, with the same functionality. If the Tracking icon is on, then the field shows the channel and the tag of the selected block of the grid.
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LOCATION B
It's a new field located below the Block Library. It shows the tag of the current channel selected.
After one click, it shows the menu for changing the current tag.
If someday is possible, a double click would put the cursor inside the field to write an alternative custom text (not a tag, simply a single note exclusive for that channel).

2 Channel A-02.jpg

AMP TAGS MENU EXAMPLES

Amp type of Channel A is JS410 Crunch Orange. Current tag is "#AMP Cleaner than Ch.C":

3 Channel A submenu v2.jpg
Amp type of Channel C is JS410 Lead Red. Current tag is "#AMP Distortion":

4 Channel C.jpg
Amp type of Channel D is Capt Hook 2B. Current tag is "#AMP Overdrive":

5 Channel D v2.jpg

FX TAGS MENU EXAMPLE

Channel A of Reverb block. Current tag is "Medium #FX":

6 Reverb Channel A v2.jpg

TAGS HOVER MOUSE

When mouse is over the letter of channel, the tag is shown:

7 retallat.png

Same behaviour when Scene Manager is active:

8 retallat.png

SCENE MANAGER

Drop-down menu showing Channel and current tag when clicking:

9 retallat.png

USER TAGS

User tags are an editable list of 40 tags, with restricted qty of characters per tag.
User tags can be global or block-depending.
The user can use "#AMP", "#CABS", "#FX" in the User Tags.

EXAMPLE:
Code User Tags Availability
00 ................ Sequenced -->(Global)
01 ................ Pedal1#FX -->(Global)
02 ................ Pedal2#FX -->(Global)
03 ................ Infiinite -->(only showed in Delay, TenTapDelay, PlexDelay, MegatapDelay blocks)
04 ................ 2 echos -->(only showed in Delay, TenTapDelay, PlexDelay, MegatapDelay blocks)
05 ................ 3 echos -->(only showed in Delay, TenTapDelay, PlexDelay, MegatapDelay blocks)

FACTORY TAGS

Factory tags are coded from 40 to 99

Code Factory Tag
40 ................ #AMP
...
99 ................ #FX PANNED TO RIGHT

SIZE FOR DATA STORAGE

The list of User and Factory tags are coded from 00 to 99.
Taking 15 blocks used per preset as a reasonable average, every preset have to store around 60 codes of 2 digits.

ABOUT FACTORY TAGS

The proposed factory tags are the ones what I would like/use. Sure there are other tags more necessary or useful, so feel free to propose what you want.

EXCEPTION 1: IN&OUT BLOCKS

Only factory tags of volume and panning are available for the channels of these blocks.

EXCEPTION 2: M-PLEX BLOCK

Channels of M-PLEX takes the Input Select as the Channel Tag.

EXCEPTION 3: EQ BLOCKS

Channel description for Eq can be totally different for every user.
These channels should have the availability of entering an exclusive description per channel, or disable the Channel tags for EQ blocks.

EXCEPTION 4: MIXER, FORMANT & PITCH BLOCKS

Difficult to find factory tags for common usage.
These channels should have the availability of entering an exclusive description per channel, or disable the Channel tags for EQ blocks.
 
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It's difficult to remember what is the configuration of every channel of every block. The more complex is the preset, more difficult to remember it.

The obvious solution is allow the user to enter a text description for every channel of every block.

The ability of writing notes has been wished a lot of times, but it hasn't be implemented. After reading several threads, it seems that the main problem is the storage of data text in the FM3/AXE, because there is not enough memory.

Maybe the following system of tags can be a solution. The storage would be very small, and the user could assign tags very fast and easily.

I try to explain it as good as I can:

TWO TYPES OF TAGS

Factory Tags (not editable)
User Tags (editable)

THREE GROUPS OF TAGS

Amp Tags for Amp Blocks
Cab Tags for Cab Blocks
FX Tags for the rest of blocks

THREE HASHTAG VARIABLES

#AMP
#CABS
#FX
#AMP takes the short name of the amp model of the channel of the AMP blocks
#CABS takes the short names of the cabs unmuted of the channel of the CAB blocks
#FX takes the short name of the effect of the block (for example #FX="DRV" for Drive blocks)

AMP TAGS - MENU LIST

#AMP
#AMP CLEAN
#AMP CRUNCH
#AMP OVERDRIVE
#AMP DISTORTION
#AMP CLEANER THAN>*
#AMP DIRTIER THAN>*
#AMP WITH HIGHER VOLUME THAN>*
#AMP WITH LOWER VOLUME THAN>*
#AMP PANNED TO>**
USER>***

CAB TAGS - MENU LIST

#CABS
#CABS WITH HIGHER VOLUME THAN>*
#CABS WITH LOWER VOLUME THAN>*
#CABS PANNED TO>**
USER>***

FX TAGS - MENU LIST

LIGHT #FX
MEDIUM #FX
HARD #FX
NO #FX (BYPASSED)
MORE #FX THAN>*
LESS #FX THAN>*
#FX WITH HIGHER VOLUME THAN>*
#FX WITH LOWER VOLUME THAN>*
#FX PANNED TO>**
USER>***

SUBMENUS FOR AMP TAGS, CAB TAGS AND FX TAGS

*cleaner, dirtier, more fx, less fx, higher and lower volume show this submenu:
Ch.A: tag of the channel
Ch.B: tag of the channel
Ch.C: tag of the channel
Ch.D: tag of the channel
**"Panned to" option shows this submenu:
Left
Center
Right
***User menu shows a submenu with all the tags entered by the user

TWO LOCATIONS FOR CHANNEL TAGS

LOCATION A
Marked in green, this field is currently showing the Channel and the Amp of the active scene, with an (i) circled at the beginning.
I propose to change the (i) for the Tracking icon of the scene manager, with the same functionality. If the Tracking icon is on, then the field shows the channel and the tag of the selected block of the grid.
View attachment 80623
LOCATION B
It's a new field located below the Block Library. It shows the tag of the current channel selected. After one click, it shows the menu for changing the current tag.

View attachment 80630

AMP TAGS MENU EXAMPLES

Amp type of Channel A is JS410 Crunch Orange. Current tag is "#AMP Cleaner than Ch.C":

View attachment 80631
Amp type of Channel C is JS410 Lead Red. Current tag is "#AMP Distortion":

View attachment 80633
Amp type of Channel D is Capt Hook 2B. Current tag is "#AMP Overdrive":

View attachment 80636

FX TAGS MENU EXAMPLE

Channel A of Reverb block. Current tag is "Medium #FX":

View attachment 80637

TAGS HOVER MOUSE

When mouse is over the letter of channel, the tag is shown:

View attachment 80639

Same behaviour when Scene Manager is active:

View attachment 80640

SCENE MANAGER

Drop-down menu showing Channel and current tag when clicking:

View attachment 80641

USER TAGS

User tags are an editable list of 40 tags, with restricted qty of characters per tag.
User tags can be global or block-depending.
The user can use "#AMP", "#CABS", "#FX" in the User Tags.

EXAMPLE:
Code User Tags Availability
00 ................ Sequenced -->(Global)
01 ................ Pedal1#FX -->(Global)
02 ................ Pedal2#FX -->(Global)
03 ................ Infiinite -->(only showed in Delay, TenTapDelay, PlexDelay, MegatapDelay blocks)
04 ................ 2 echos -->(only showed in Delay, TenTapDelay, PlexDelay, MegatapDelay blocks)
05 ................ 3 echos -->(only showed in Delay, TenTapDelay, PlexDelay, MegatapDelay blocks)

FACTORY TAGS

Factory tags are coded from 40 to 99

Code Factory Tag
40 ................ #AMP
...
99 ................ #FX PANNED TO RIGHT

SIZE FOR DATA STORAGE

The list of User and Factory tags are coded from 00 to 99.
Taking 15 blocks used per preset as a reasonable average, every preset have to store around 60 codes of 2 digits.

ABOUT FACTORY TAGS

The proposed factory tags are the ones what I would like/use. Sure there are other tags more necessary or useful, so feel free to propose what you want.

EXCEPTION 1: IN&OUT BLOCKS

Only factory tags of volume and panning are available for the channels of these blocks.

EXCEPTION 2: M-PLEX BLOCK

Channels of M-PLEX takes the Input Select as the Channel Tag.

EXCEPTION 3: EQ BLOCKS

Channel description for Eq can be totally different for every user.
These channels should have the availability of entering an exclusive description per channel, or disable the Channel tags for EQ blocks.

EXCEPTION 4: MIXER, FORMANT & PITCH BLOCKS

Difficult to find factory tags for common usage.
These channels should have the availability of entering an exclusive description per channel, or disable the Channel tags for EQ blocks.
Oh. Right. Do their jobs for them! Now what are they going to work on!? :)

You're assuming that the editor interface drives the features, but it doesn't, instead it's the front panel and knobs on the unit itself. That way we're able to edit anything wherever we are. How would these features be implemented using the available knobs and display on the FM3?
 
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Oh. Right. Do their jobs for them! Now what are they going to work on!? :)

You're assuming that the editor interface drives the features, but it doesn't, instead it's the front panel and knobs on the unit itself. That way we're able to edit anything wherever we are. How would these features be implemented using the available knobs and display on the FM3?
hehehe :)

I have not thought how manage the Channel tags via the unit itself, sure Fractal staff knows the best way to do that.
But I suppose that a new page in Setup/Global is the appropiate place for editing the list of User Tags.

And for editing the Channel Tag, inside the edit page of the block.

If Fractal someday implement this feature or something similar, I assume it will be editable via unit and via app editor.
 
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