Axe-Fx III Firmware 22.00 Public Beta #5 (Beta 11)

[ales.prochazka]

I noticed significantly longer gap in sound when scenes are switched, wen CAB && AMP channels are switched together (against previous regular (not beta) version). It's noticeable Legacy and also Dyna-cab mode.
I tested this beta first time now.

 

[yyz67]

I noticed significantly longer gap in sound when scenes are switched, wen CAB && AMP channels are switched together (against previous regular (not beta) version). It's noticeable Legacy and also Dyna-cab mode.
I tested this beta first time now.

Post sound clips of before and after?

 

[NeoSound]

Here we go again. I didn’t think it would take long before this turned into the “don’t ask for stuff or you’re ungrateful or a complainer, you already have enough” thread.

I said "Our" nature not just yours... although you do seem to like complaining about someone's post about complaining.

 

[Martinvox1]

Any chance for hiwatt fane cab..?

 

[guitarcal]

I’ll put my request in for a 4x12 Basketweave with greenbacks. If i have to go third party for that cab though, that will be fine as well.

I’m still liking the TV cab. Not really a fan of the Friedman with greenbacks for some reason.

 

[ales.prochazka]

Post sound clips of before and after?

Here are sound clips and also preset.

 

[trixdropd]

This place is hilarious at times. Amazing new cabs added that should surely allow anyone to coax any guitar sound ever recorded, and people pop up asking if very specific CONES are in the modelled speakers.

The new cabs sound amazing.

Soon, Cliff will have it so accurate that we will be able to hear the difference in the wire used on the speaker cone to the jack

 

[yyz67]

Here are sound clips and also preset.

Thanks. Not sure I hear a big difference.

Do you have ability in your DAW or recorder software to zoom in on the waveform gap with the same time scale? Then we could see if there is a visible difference.

 

[Leise]

Here are sound clips and also preset.

Can only notice the tonal difference from normal ir to dynacab mabe you can mak a clip were the Differenz is more noticeable.

 

[axes]

Here are sound clips and also preset.

Yeah, it's definitely longer, I'd say almost twice as long. It's hard to catch because it's still short but certainly longer than on 21.04.

 

[Patzag]

Can only notice the tonal difference from normal ir to dynacab mabe you can mak a clip were the Differenz is more noticeable.

Measured: 53ms pre-22, 80ms 22b. Neither bother me.

 

[Darrin66]

I said "Our" nature not just yours... although you do seem to like complaining about someone's post about complaining.

Wow, that is not even close to being a nice try

 

[Rocket Brother]

Any chance for hiwatt fane cab..?

I was going to ask @FractalAudio whether a Hiwatt 4x12 cab with Fanes would be added, as they are very special and do not sound like any of the existing cabs.
For all us Pink Floyd fans a Fane loaded Hiwatt cab would be a great addition.

 

[boyce89976]

Depends on the amp. A Chieftain has two speakers of the same type.

Chieftain also came with the same mismatched speakers as the DC30 at one point. I have a vintage set (early 2000's) from the Chieftain of a local touring player. G12H and Greenback

It seems the Chieftain also (probably, based on speaker codes) came with a V30 and an Anniversary (prior to Phil's ownership) and both speakers carried the same 30w label.

None of this, of course, lends itself to consistency, but I still contend, the mismatched speakers (G12H, G12M) is a big part of the DC30 sound. Looks like I'll be sticking with IR's of the mismatched cabs.

This 2000's Chieftain on Reverb has the mismatched speakers (the "M" stands for Matchless, not the speaker type). The one on the left is the G12H30 and the one on the right is the Greenback 25, :
Matchless Chieftain

 

[trancegodz]

I hope the 4x10 Super Reverb is one of the remaining cabs. Not enough Super Reverb IRs in the wild as is and the best ones are the legacy IRs on Fractal.

Me too.

 

[simonp54]

Maybe I don’t understand, but I don’t follow the logic of mismatched speakers in a ir-capture like this. The virtual mic is in front of ONE speaker and we are moving it around relative to that. Further away you might get aspects of the other speaker(s) within the sound but predominantly the speaker that was the focus of the capture IS the sound?

 

[Orvillain]

Maybe I don’t understand, but I don’t follow the logic of mismatched speakers in a ir-capture like this. The virtual mic is in front of ONE speaker and we are moving it around relative to that. Further away you might get aspects of the other speaker(s) within the sound but predominantly the speaker that was the focus of the capture IS the sound?

Even in a close mic'd situation, the other speakers affect the sound of the speaker you're micing. Often quite a lot too.

 

[My name is mud]

Thinking of it
after the final firmware, if one day they decide to add a new cab, it will mess the order of the dynacab everytime ?

 

[ales.prochazka]

Measured: 53ms pre-22, 80ms 22b. Neither bother me.

I analysed it little bit deeper. It looks so, that when is changed channel only in one block, gap is shorter, than when there are more blocks, where channel is changed.
e.g.

• CAB alone - 30 ms
• AMP alone - 19 ms
• CAB & AMP together - 58 ms
• CAB & AMP & DRIVE - 88 ms

Can live with it, just information, it's changed against previous regular release (21.04).

 

[Del Pedro]

I analysed it little bit deeper. It looks so, that when is changed channel only in one block, gap is shorter, than when there are more blocks, where channel is changed.
e.g.

• CAB alone - 30 ms
• AMP alone - 19 ms
• CAB & AMP together - 58 ms
• CAB & AMP & DRIVE - 88 ms

Can live with it, just information, it's changed against previous regular release (21.04).

I really love my Axe FX 3, I almost never use my tube amps anymore. But these numbers illustrate the only big issue I have with the Axe FX 3. The audio gaps in some cases (!) are just ridiculously long.
Not a single amp (commercial and DIY) I have used in 25 years had noticeable gaps when switching channels (I know that some people claim their amps have gaps. That's due to bad design. Well designed relay switching does not need mute circuits and switches channels in a few milliseconds). Even my more than 20 year old Yamaha DG stomp has no gaps (a lot simpler modelling but also a lot less powerful hardware).