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Audeze LCD-2s
Open or closed back version ?
Have you tried both ? Any thoughts if you have will be greatly appreciated.
Audeze LCD-2s
Open or closed back version ?
Have you tried both ? Any thoughts if you have will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for weighing in.To me open back cans often sound more natural and my ears don't sweat as much wearing them for long periods of time. They also don't isolate you from your environment as much, so you can still hear what's going on around you a bit. They do bleed audio more though, so they're not a great choice for monitoring while recording with sensitive mics.
Thanks for weighing in.
I'm used to studio work so I know all the general things about cans and the usual pros and cons, but I haven't tried any of the Audeze headphones, and I'm very curious about those.
I agree with you that open back cans are usually more natural sounding, but as you say they bleed more sound through which can be a problem if you have sensitive mics open near your or if you are trying to play quietly with family members nearby / in the same room.
Conversely a closed back can will leak way less sound, and can in some circumstances be a better choice for other reasons as well.
Ie if I have to use cans I love tracking guitars trough my Audio-Technica 50M's closed back cans as they are really punchy and makes me get into the part, whereas my open back AKG K701's are arguably better cans but not very involving to use while tracking.
That is the reson I'd like to know if @luke or anybody else have experiences with Audeze LCD2's open back vs closed back in both a guitar setting and in a more general studio setting.
Glad this has come up again. Haven’t had much chance to play guitar recently and, when I do, it’s been late at night so have been using headphones more.
I have some DT880 pros (250ohm) and gave up with them last year. Anything above edge of breakup levels of gain sounded really bad. Very thin and buzzy. Music and cleaner tones through the axe fx, or anything,sounds great, nice and clear.
I’ve revisited them recently and I’m finding the same thing. I’ve tried everything I can think of in terms of settings and dialling it out, but no joy. I initially thought they were faulty, but then everything would sound garbage. The axe fx still sounds increadible through my A7x monitors. I can’t make them sound bad, even if I try.
I’m sure I asked before, but is there some simple tips and tricks to setting and using higher gain tones through headphones?
Output 1input volume 1
oh i wrote that. haha thanks, correctedOutput 1
I tried a pair of 20 ohm Audeze LCD-X headphones with my AF3 and they distorted very sharply and abruptly at about 1 or 2 o’clock on the dial, at a modest volume. It was a bit shocking to have unintended distortion not accompanied by a high volume. I read up a bit and it was the AF3’s headphone amp distorting because the impedance was too low, but I can’t say I fully understood it.Lower ohm head phones will go loud really quick using output 1 volume control, and 250+ ohm head phones will take a lot more pressure from output volume 1 before they go louder.
I tried a pair of 20 ohm Audeze LCD-X headphones with my AF3 and they distorted very sharply and abruptly at about 1 or 2 o’clock on the dial, at a modest volume. It was a bit shocking to have unintended distortion not accompanied by a high volume. I read up a bit and it was the AF3’s headphone amp distorting because the impedance was too low, but I can’t say I fully understood it.
I returned the LCD-X and got the LCD-2 (70ohm), and I can get plenty of volume all the way up the knob.
Another really fascinating thing I read is that dynamic headphones have an impedance curve (much like the speaker models in the Amp block), which changes their frequency response. If your headphones have around 8 times the impedance of the amp, then you get a more neutral response that isn’t changed by the impedance curve. Planar magnetic headphones like the Audeze have a flat impedance curve, so it is not necessary to get one that is 8x higher, just has to be equal to or greater than the AF3’s impedance (35ohm).
yes, anything from amp ohm output rating x4 or x8. I.e. axe fx 3 headphone amp being 35ohms. Thus, 35 x 8 = 280ohm headphone. Yet even 35 x 4 = 140ohm headphone is fine and will take a lot to break up, and wont volume up to loud to quick. But its all dependent on the type of head phone besides their ohm rating. it really still is a trial and error thing. My 26ohm head phones are still amazing, just don't have them too loud. I use at about half axe fx output volume. perfect. Also, if you have 300ohm headphones or more, then you could get the headphone amp output to max and still not reach the headphone sweet spot where it sounds most neutral and flat response. Crazy levels of trial and error with this situation eh. But there are some reference headphones a lot of people have used that seem to be mostly very good and suit MOST people. use them as a reference point i guess.I tried a pair of 20 ohm Audeze LCD-X headphones with my AF3 and they distorted very sharply and abruptly at about 1 or 2 o’clock on the dial, at a modest volume. It was a bit shocking to have unintended distortion not accompanied by a high volume. I read up a bit and it was the AF3’s headphone amp distorting because the impedance was too low, but I can’t say I fully understood it.
I returned the LCD-X and got the LCD-2 (70ohm), and I can get plenty of volume all the way up the knob.
Another really fascinating thing I read is that dynamic headphones have an impedance curve (much like the speaker models in the Amp block), which changes their frequency response. If your headphones have around 8 times the impedance of the amp, then you get a more neutral response that isn’t changed by the impedance curve. Planar magnetic headphones like the Audeze have a flat impedance curve, so it is not necessary to get one that is 8x higher, just has to be equal to or greater than the AF3’s impedance (35ohm).
Here is an odd question! Computer Gaming flat response headphones, Razor and the like. Anyone tried them for the axe. Its Not a silly question really, because many of them are VERY high quality and super flat response for accurate surround sound and very high audio quality. I wonder how they would work.
i agree with that, but there is a lot of different versions. just out of interest. not all are designed for bass excess.I've heard at several audiophile reviews that Razers and other gaming headphones have skull shaking pounding vibrating bass, to satisfy the bassheads.
I tried a pair of 20 ohm Audeze LCD-X headphones with my AF3 and they distorted very sharply and abruptly at about 1 or 2 o’clock on the dial, at a modest volume. It was a bit shocking to have unintended distortion not accompanied by a high volume. I read up a bit and it was the AF3’s headphone amp distorting because the impedance was too low, but I can’t say I fully understood it.
I returned the LCD-X and got the LCD-2 (70ohm), and I can get plenty of volume all the way up the knob.
Another really fascinating thing I read is that dynamic headphones have an impedance curve (much like the speaker models in the Amp block), which changes their frequency response. If your headphones have around 8 times the impedance of the amp, then you get a more neutral response that isn’t changed by the impedance curve. Planar magnetic headphones like the Audeze have a flat impedance curve, so it is not necessary to get one that is 8x higher, just has to be equal to or greater than the AF3’s impedance (35ohm).